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Subject:    Re: [Alpine-info] Re: several messages
From:       Jacob Wegelin <jwegelin () vcu ! edu>
Date:       2009-08-04 19:49:57
Message-ID: alpine.OSX.1.10.0908041548470.312 () SPHBSTR3083-2 ! local
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Thank you for this reply. I did finally simply put the alpine-bin.osx-10.5 file into \
my own personal bin directory and now I call it (type its name) to run Alpine.

On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Jacob Wegelin wrote:
> > Thank you. But is there not some more automatic way to install it on a Mac?
> 
> This sounds like you're coming from a Linux background.  (I would also
> quibble with the word "automatic", since your other examples are far from
> automatic -- you are invoking a command to upgrade.)
> 
> As far as I know, macports is one of the ways to get various apps onto a
> Mac, but I don't use it personally since it's very strict about directory
> locations.  (I'd like to be able to use it to update apps on a shared network
> directory if possible, without having to deal with manually making symlinks.)
> 
> > Then I went to http://www.washington.edu/alpine/acquire/ and downloaded
> > alpine-bin.osx-10.5.Z. When I double-clicked this, the file alpine-bin.osx-10.5
> > appeared in the directory. But my Mac does not know how to open it, although it
> > is supposedly an executable:
> > 
> > ~/SoftwareDownload> file alpine-bin.osx-10.5
> > alpine-bin.osx-10.5: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
> > alpine-bin.osx-10.5 (for architecture ppc7400):	Mach-O executable ppc
> > alpine-bin.osx-10.5 (for architecture i386):	Mach-O executable i386
> > ~/SoftwareDownload> open alpine-bin.osx-10.5
> > No application knows how to open
> > /Users/user/SoftwareDownload/alpine-bin.osx-10.5.
> > ~/SoftwareDownload>
> 
> You don't "open" a CLI app.
> 
> You just run it from Terminal.
> 
> cd to the directory and type
> alpine-bin.osx-10.5
> 
> (you might just want to rename it to alpine)
> 
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Jacob Wegelin wrote:
> > Doesn't Macintosh have a way to automatically update its code, including its
> > C compiler? Every time my Macintosh requests permission to upgrade itself I
> > tell it "yes."
> 
> Someone else sort of answered this...  But the developer tools, including the
> compiler, are not part of the main operating system, because the vast majority
> of users do not need or use those tools.  (Yes, there are *some* tools
> installed with the main OS, but AFAIK, largely those are some debugging
> tools and other code/libraries used by things like Perl..)
> 
> You can upgrade the developer tools by downloading the one *appropriate for
> your OS* (make sure you check this) from developer.apple.com.  You need
> a free online-only account.
> 
> > Most software packages for a Mac come as a downloadable *.dmg file, which one
> > can doubleclick and then it installs itself. Is there any hope of alpine doing
> > this? All I want to do is get the latest version of alpine working on my
> > Macintosh, and keep it updated in the future.
> 
> I think the compressed file you downloaded above is close enough -- there's
> really no need to put it in a disk image AFAIK.  (Maybe it's a permissions
> issue?)
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