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Subject:    Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] [rpd] TRANSITIONING quickly to IPv6
From:       JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet () consulintel ! es>
Date:       2018-06-06 8:50:33
Message-ID: 794D673D-D5DA-471C-8A45-8D2968D14CC3 () consulintel ! es
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One thing I strongly suggest: Do not use migration for IPv6, it confuses people.

Migration is when you move (as an example) from Windows XP to Windows Vista. You \
install a new operating system but the previous one is gone. You don't run them \
simultaneously.

The IETF has defined transition and coexistence mechanisms, NOT migration.

So, comparing with my previous OS example, migrating to IPv6 means removing ALL IPv4 \
(end-to-end) and installing only IPv6.

In general, we don't do that, we deploy IPv6, but we keep (at least in most of the \
"client" devices today), IPv4. Either we use dual-stack or any transition mechanism. \
So, there is a coexistence between both, IPv4 and IPv6.

In the future, yes, maybe we, at some point, start removing IPv4. But this is not a \
wise recommendation for end-users/end-networks.

This is very evident when you train people. They get confused, and also because in \
many languages, both words are not exactly equivalent (as in English seems to be, \
which actually is not ...).


Regards,
Jordi
 
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Willy MANGA <mangawilly@gmail.com>
Fecha: miércoles, 6 de junio de 2018, 10:25
Para: <rpd@afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] Migrating quickly to IPv6

    Hi,
    
    Le 06/06/2018 à 01:31, S Moonesamy a écrit :
    > Hi Owen,
    > At 02:15 PM 05-06-2018, Owen DeLong wrote:
    >> OK, there's a difference in perspective about IPv6 being a replacement
    >> for IPv4 depending on the timeframe of your focus.
    > 
    > There was a presentation at RIPE in which it was stated that the pace of
    > adoption of IPv6 in the Internet appears to have slowed down over the
    > past 9 months.  Was that taken into consideration for the timeframe?
    
    Maybe it can be useful to readers to know which presentation you are
    talking about [1] .
    
    I have appreciated Geoff's study but  from my point of view the way
    people in africa may use/manage IPv6 in 2 or 5 years is yet unknown
    because you don't have enough data (kudos to projects like WIDER) .
    
    Generally you don't have unfortunately enough data coming from our
    continent; thus it's difficult to forecast exactly what can be the trend
    especially here.
    
    I believe in Africa, a major player here is governements on contrary of
    other regions. You may like it or not in many countries, you can't
    organise a meeting without their agreement, you can't use freely the
    internet without their agreement,etc... (I'm not a fan of that issue by
    the way)
    If some african countries find in IPv6 a real need to go forward, the
    curve of adoption may jump drastically.
    
    In addition, the second most important actor (again from my point of
    view) is the universities. I really really hope those here working
    within this area will understand me. We [2] are doing our best here but
    it's a combination of people/organisation.
    
    Of course I may be wrong but it's just a point of view :)
    
    By the way, it's #v6launch today :) . Announce your v6 prefixes; it will
    not hurt you ;)
    
    1. https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/9-2018-05-17-ipv6-reasons.pdf
    
    2. AUF - DRACGL https://nda.manbene.net/index.php/s/kWfs21HEHWzIP3t
    
    -- 
    Willy Manga
    @ongolaboy
    https://ongola.blogspot.com/
    
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