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Subject:    Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel
From:       Sunday Folayan <sfolayan () skannet ! com>
Date:       2020-12-28 11:02:29
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Hello Mirriam,

I have been on Holiday.

Are you (1) attacking my person, or (2) my past involvement or (3) 
moderating my participation or (4) objecting to my rhetorically calling 
for a truce between two good friends?

No, I am not playing Co-Chair. I am not aware that I am banned or 
forbidden from writing anything, or for that matter calling for a truce.

Would you indeed have felt better if I was writing with a pseudo Name?

Seasons greetings.

Sunday.

On 12/18/20 4:03 PM, Mirriam wrote:
> Hi Sunday,
>
> Are you now playing co-chair?  Moderating  discussions, deciding which 
> discussions are out of scope, while their outcomes could be of 
> interest to the WG?
>
> I do remember your chairmanship at AFRINIC and wonder why such sudden 
> and intense activity from the past chair of the BoD in the PDP.
>
>  Mirriam.
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 12:11:18 PM GMT+3, Sunday Folayan 
> <sfolayan@skannet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Daniel and Marcus,
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> Please remove rpd@afrinic.net <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net> from your 
> recipients list and continue your exchanges back-stage. When you have 
> consensus, go ahead and then post in on rpd.
>
> You two ... Have a great day, and well done for the good cooperative 
> work you are doing!
>
> Sunday.
>
> On 12/16/20 9:07 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:
>
> Dear Marcus,
>
> I have always understood you shortcomings therefore I wont waste time 
> arguing back and forth with you. The PDP the Co-Chairs are not 
> following, I suspect is the one defined by you or else I cannot see 
> the non-compliance.
>
> For the first time you said something reasonable, I agree we cannot 
> compromise standards and we need to hold each other accountable. 
> However, I have never seen you doing that, because you rather reduce 
> discussions to attacks and attempted intimidation as you just did with 
> your last mail.
>
> Simply
>
> Daniel
>
> On 15/12/2020 7:45 pm, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:
> Hi Daniel
>
> I completely understood you and your confusions and diversions.
>
> Note that nobody is castigating the cochairs. They serve at cochairs 
> as defined by the PDP.
>
> You have consistently stated the most outrageous things about this 
> community and pointed fingers to members of this community every time 
> anyone attempt to caution the cochairs.
>
> The cochairs not once but a number of times have failed to follow the 
> PDP unless members of the working group  constantly reminds them to do 
> so and when raised you now say hey xyz is castigating cochairs and 
> then level personal attacks making it all sour.
>
> You need to stop and start accepting that holding each other to the 
> high standards is perfectly normal and accountability has nothing to 
> do with your endless personal attacks insinuation and division talking 
> points.
>
>
>
> Marcus
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Daniel Yakmut <yakmutd@googlemail.com> 
> <mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 8:07:36 PM
> *To:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey@hotmail.com> 
> <mailto:madomey@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd@afrinic.net> 
> <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>; Ashok <ashok@afrinic.net> 
> <mailto:ashok@afrinic.net>; Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud@gmail.com> 
> <mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel
> Dear Marcus,
> Maybe you didn't understand my position, the mess is the attempt by 
> some members to continue to lay booby traps everywhere in  the PWDG.
>
> Moreso, I have remained consitent, that the Co-chairs should not be 
> castgated for trying to do their work.
>
> I love archives because they remind me where I have been and where I 
> am possibly heading.
>
> Simply
> Daniel
>
> On Dec 14, 2020 8:49 PM, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:madomey@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Daniel,
>
>     Are you discovering the “mess”?
>
>     The mess is created and maintained when the PDP is no longer
>     followed and WG’s powers usurped by people entitled only in an
>     administrative roles.
>
>     When people lose confidence in process system or people, you
>     should expect this kind of vigilance and queries for transparency
>     and accountability.
>
>     Knowing where you stand, It is not surprising that you are not
>     concerned  when you saw discussions on policy proposals in that
>     context.
>
>     The archives have records and will convey the responsibility of
>     each of us.
>
>
>
>     Marcus
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd@afrinic.net
>     <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>>
>     *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 10:19:07 AM
>     *To:* Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud@gmail.com
>     <mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com>>; Ashok <ashok@afrinic.net
>     <mailto:ashok@afrinic.net>>
>
>     *Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd@afrinic.net
>     <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel
>
>     Dear Arnaud,
>
>     Please are these insinuations for real. How could Co-Chairs
>     recommend draft policies for board approval.
>
>     1. Are we saying that AfriNIC Staff and Board are oblivious what
>     is happening in the RPD that they cannot detect a rogue policy.
>
>     2. Some members are literally becoming paranoid.
>
>     3. Why are some community members bent in giving a dog a bad name,
>     so that it can be hanged.
>
>     4. I hope the discerning community members can see through
>     shenanigan being thrown around.
>
>     I will say what a mess!!!
>
>     Simply
>
>     Daniel
>
>     On 13/12/2020 11:35 am, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:
>>     Hello, PDWG members
>>
>>     It appears in recent communications from legal counsel that
>>     co-chairs have recommended some draft policies for approval by board.
>>
>>     Why are the recommendations, including the reports prescribed by
>>     section 3.4.4, not published on this rpd for the sake of
>>     transparency and the  practices in the matter?
>>
>>     Where did the resource transfer proposal version 5.0 come from?
>>
>>     We seem to have abandoned the PDP and its key underlining principles.
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>     --
>>     Arnaud
>>
>>     Le mer. 9 déc. 2020 à 16:25, Ashok <ashok@afrinic.net
>>     <mailto:ashok@afrinic.net>> a écrit :
>>
>>         *Dear Community members,*
>>
>>         *I refer to AFRINIC’s Chief Executive Officer’s emails dated
>>         30 November 2020 and 03 December 2020 sent to the PDWG’s
>>         Co-Chairs to which I was in copy thereof. Copies of the said
>>         emails are also herewith attached.*
>>
>>         *As AFRINIC’s Legal Counsel I wish first to draw your
>>         attention to the PDWG’s Co-Chairs’ declaration of consensus
>>         dated 07 October 2020 in respect of the policy entitled
>>         /'Board's Prerogatives'/ – AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02- as
>>         well as the policy entitled /'Resource Transfer Policy'/
>>         –AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04- whereby in the latter case,
>>         consensus was initially declared on 07 October 2020 and which
>>         was subsequently reversed by the Co-Chairs on 17 October 2020.*
>>
>>         *I hold no mandate to interfere in the work of the PDWG
>>         and/or its independence I shall refrain from doing so.*
>>
>>         *Nevertheless, I deem it my duty to tender my advice, for
>>         whatever it is worth and without in any way pressurising, the
>>         PDWG, an AFRINIC-related body to be bound by same.*
>>
>>         *My advice addresses the aforementioned two policy proposals
>>         and my purpose is to ensure that the work of the PDWG thereon
>>         as well as its outcome are both legally in order. I have
>>         given anxious consideration to this matter and also bear in
>>         mind that where the acts and doings of the PDWG are not
>>         legally in order, same may have a detrimental effect on the
>>         image and reputation of AFRINIC both as a corporate body and
>>         responsible RIR. *
>>
>>         *In regard to the policy entitled /'Board's Prerogatives'/, I
>>         have taken note of AFRINIC's Staff Assessment report dated 04
>>         November 2020 - **https://afrinic.net/policy/
>>         proposals/2020-gen-004-d2# impact
>>         <https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact>**.
>>         *
>>
>>         *You may have noticed that the said report has raised both
>>         serious governance and operational issues as well as areas of
>>         uncertainty observed in the proposed policy which has, up to
>>         now, remained unaddressed. *
>>
>>         *Consequently, it is my humble view that the PDWG may in its
>>         wisdom consider to review its own stand in respect of these
>>         policy proposals so as to avoid any form of encroachment,
>>         potential or otherwise, onto the Board of Director’s
>>         prerogatives, the foundations of which are grounded in
>>         articles 3.4 and 15 of the AFRINIC’s bylaws. *
>>
>>         *However, should the PDWG maintain its stand in respect of
>>         the above, then the appropriate motion has to be made during
>>         an AGMM, pursuant to Article 7.7 of the bylaws to amend
>>         articles 3.4, 15(1), 15(2) and 15(3) of the bylaws thus
>>         allowing the powers of the Board of Directors to be subjected
>>         to the directives and guidance of the PDWG.*
>>
>>         *As regard the policy entitled /'Resource Transfer Policy'/,
>>         the PDWG may be aware that the said policy (i.e. version 4
>>         thereof) is presentlythe subject of an appeal before the
>>         Appeal Committee and the matter is yet to be determined. *
>>
>>         *Consequently, the PDWG is hereby informed and advised that
>>         it is a matter of sound and settled legal principle that,
>>         pending the outcome of the Appeal Committee proceedings, it
>>         (PDWG) refrains from entertaining any request emanating from
>>         the relevant co-authors of the said policy proposals for
>>         further amending these proposals on the legal principle of
>>         /pendente lite/. It is also my considered view that any
>>         attempt in the meantime by the latter to submit a newly
>>         purported version of their policy proposal will be
>>         inadmissible (non-receivable) in law. *
>>
>>         *To close my submission may I urge the PDWG to give due
>>         weight to my non-binding legal advice and consequently
>>         appreciate the real risk of AFRINIC, in the event that the
>>         Appeal proceedings are ignored, having to ratify and
>>         implement two policy proposals, on the same subject matter,
>>         which would lead to an unprecedented conflictual situation. *
>>
>>         *Ashok.B.Radhakissoon.*
>>
>>         *Legal Counsel
>>         *
>>
>>         **
>>
>>         *
>>
>>         *
>>
>>         **
>>
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    <p>Hello Mirriam,</p>
    <p>I have been on Holiday.</p>
    Are you (1) attacking my person, or (2) my past involvement or (3)
    moderating my participation or (4) objecting to my rhetorically
    calling for a truce between two good friends?
    <p>No, I am not playing Co-Chair. I am not aware that I am banned or
      forbidden from writing anything, or for that matter calling for a
      truce. <br>
      <br>
      Would you indeed have felt better if I was writing with a pseudo
      Name? <br>
    </p>
    <p>Seasons greetings.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Sunday.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/20 4:03 PM, Mirriam wrote:<br>
    </div>
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          <div><font size="2" face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
              sans-serif">Hi Sunday,<br>
              <br>
              Are you now playing co-chair?  Moderating  discussions,
              deciding which discussions are out of scope, while their
              outcomes could be of interest to the WG?<br>
              <br>
            </font>
            <div><font size="2" face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
                sans-serif">I do remember your chairmanship at AFRINIC
                and wonder why such sudden and intense activity from the
                past chair of the BoD in the PDP.</font></div>
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            <font size="2" face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
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      <div id="yahoo_quoted_8605166704" class="yahoo_quoted">
        <div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial,
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          <div> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 12:11:18 PM GMT+3,
            Sunday Folayan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com">&lt;sfolayan@skannet.com&gt;</a> wrote: </div>  \
<div><br>  </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div id="yiv3786062581">
              <div>
                <p>Daniel and Marcus,</p>
                <p>Gentlemen,</p>
                <p>Please remove <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                    shape="rect"
                    class="yiv3786062581moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    ymailto="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
                    href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" \
moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>  from your recipients list and continue \
your exchanges  back-stage. When you have consensus, go ahead and then
                  post in on rpd.</p>
                <p>You two ... Have a great day, and well done for the
                  good cooperative work you are doing!</p>
                <p>Sunday.<br clear="none">
                </p>
                <div class="yiv3786062581yqt4615731210"
                  id="yiv3786062581yqtfd98579">
                  <div class="yiv3786062581moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/20
                    9:07 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:<br
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                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote>
                </div>
              </div>
              <div class="yiv3786062581yqt4615731210"
                id="yiv3786062581yqtfd36547">
                <div>
                  <p>Dear Marcus,</p>
                  <p>I have always understood you shortcomings therefore
                    I wont waste time arguing back and forth with you.
                    The PDP the Co-Chairs are not following, I suspect
                    is the one defined by you or else I cannot see the
                    non-compliance.</p>
                  <p>For the first time you said something reasonable, I
                    agree we cannot compromise standards and we need to
                    hold each other accountable. However, I have never
                    seen you doing that, because you rather reduce
                    discussions to attacks and attempted intimidation as
                    you just did with your last mail.</p>
                  <p>Simply</p>
                  <p>Daniel<br clear="none">
                  </p>
                  <div class="yiv3786062581moz-cite-prefix">On
                    15/12/2020 7:45 pm, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:<br
                      clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div style="color:rgb(33, 33,
                    33);background-color:rgb(255, 255,
                    255);text-align:left;"> Hi Daniel
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div>I completely understood you and your confusions
                      and diversions.</div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div>Note that nobody is castigating the cochairs.
                      They serve at cochairs as defined by the PDP.</div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div>You have consistently stated the most
                      outrageous things about this community and pointed
                      fingers to members of this community every time
                      anyone attempt to caution the cochairs.</div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div>The cochairs not once but a number of times
                      have failed to follow the PDP unless members of
                      the working group  constantly reminds them to do
                      so and when raised you now say hey xyz is
                      castigating cochairs and then level personal
                      attacks making it all sour.</div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div>You need to stop and start accepting that
                      holding each other to the high standards is
                      perfectly normal and accountability has nothing to
                      do with your endless personal attacks insinuation
                      and division talking points.</div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    Marcus<br clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <div id="yiv3786062581ms-outlook-mobile-signature"
                    style="text-align:left;">
                    <div style="text-align:left;"><br clear="none">
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                  </div>
                  <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%;"
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                  <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3786062581divRplyFwdMsg"><font
                      style="font-size:11pt;" face="Calibri, sans-serif"
                      color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Daniel Yakmut <a
                        rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                        class="yiv3786062581moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        ymailto="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com"
                        target="_blank"
                        href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;yakmutd@googlemail.com&gt;</a><br
                        clear="none">
                      <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 14, 2020 8:07:36 PM<br
                        clear="none">
                      <b>To:</b> Marcus K. G. Adomey <a rel="nofollow
                        noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                        class="yiv3786062581moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        ymailto="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
                        target="_blank"
                        href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;madomey@hotmail.com&gt;</a><br
                        clear="none">
                      <b>Cc:</b> rpd &gt;&gt; AfriNIC Resource Policy <a
                        rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                        class="yiv3786062581moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        ymailto="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
                        href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;rpd@afrinic.net&gt;</a>;
                      Ashok <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                        shape="rect"
                        class="yiv3786062581moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        ymailto="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net"
                        target="_blank" href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;ashok@afrinic.net&gt;</a>;
                      Arnaud AMELINA <a rel="nofollow noopener
                        noreferrer" shape="rect"
                        class="yiv3786062581moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        ymailto="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;amelnaud@gmail.com&gt;</a><br
                        clear="none">
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal
                      Counsel</font>
                    <div> </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>Dear Marcus,
                      <div>Maybe you didn't understand my position, the
                        mess is the attempt by some members to continue
                        to lay booby traps everywhere in  the PWDG.</div>
                      <div><br clear="none">
                      </div>
                      <div>Moreso, I have remained consitent, that the
                        Co-chairs should not be castgated for trying to
                        do their work.</div>
                      <div><br clear="none">
                      </div>
                      <div>I love archives because they remind me where
                        I have been and where I am possibly heading.</div>
                      <div><br clear="none">
                      </div>
                      <div>Simply</div>
                      <div>Daniel</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="yiv3786062581x_gmail_extra"><br
                        clear="none">
                      <div class="yiv3786062581x_gmail_quote">On Dec 14,
                        2020 8:49 PM, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" &lt;<a
                          rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                          shape="rect"
                          ymailto="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
                          target="_blank"
                          href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br clear="none">
                        <blockquote class="yiv3786062581x_quote"
                          style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                          solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                          <div>
                            <div
style="color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-align:left;">
                              Hi Daniel,
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div>Are you discovering the “mess”?</div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div>The mess is created and maintained
                                when the PDP is no longer followed and
                                WG’s powers usurped by people entitled
                                only in an administrative roles.</div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div>When people lose confidence in
                                process system or people, you should
                                expect this kind of vigilance and
                                queries for transparency and
                                accountability.</div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div>Knowing where you stand, It is not
                                surprising that you are not concerned
                                 when you saw discussions on policy
                                proposals in that context.</div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div>The archives have records and will
                                convey the responsibility of each of us.
                              </div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              Marcus<br clear="none">
                            </div>
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face="Calibri,  sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
                                Daniel Yakmut via RPD &lt;<a
                                  rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                                  shape="rect"
                                  ymailto="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                                  target="_blank"
                                  href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>&gt;<br
                                  clear="none">
                                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 14, 2020
                                10:19:07 AM<br clear="none">
                                <b>To:</b> Arnaud AMELINA &lt;<a
                                  rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                                  shape="rect"
                                  ymailto="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank"
                                  href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>&gt;;
                                Ashok &lt;<a rel="nofollow noopener
                                  noreferrer" shape="rect"
                                  ymailto="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net"
                                  target="_blank"
                                  href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net"
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                                <b>Cc:</b> rpd &gt;&gt; AfriNIC Resource
                                Policy &lt;<a rel="nofollow noopener
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                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Statement from
                                Legal Counsel</div>
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                              <p>Dear Arnaud, <br clear="none">
                              </p>
                              <div class="yiv3786062581x_elided-text">
                                <p>Please are these insinuations for
                                  real. How could Co-Chairs recommend
                                  draft policies for board approval. <br
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                                </p>
                                <p>1. Are we saying that AfriNIC Staff
                                  and Board are oblivious what is
                                  happening in the RPD that they cannot
                                  detect a rogue policy.</p>
                                <p>2. Some members are literally
                                  becoming paranoid.</p>
                                <p>3. Why are some community members
                                  bent in giving a dog a bad name, so
                                  that it can be hanged.</p>
                                <p>4. I hope the discerning community
                                  members can see through shenanigan
                                  being thrown around.</p>
                                <p>I will say what a mess!!!</p>
                                <p>Simply</p>
                                <p>Daniel<br clear="none">
                                </p>
                                <div>On 13/12/2020 11:35 am, Arnaud
                                  AMELINA wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                    <div>Hello, PDWG members </div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>It appears in recent
                                      communications from legal counsel
                                      that co-chairs have recommended
                                      some draft policies for approval
                                      by board.</div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Why are the recommendations,
                                      including the reports prescribed
                                      by section 3.4.4, not published on
                                      this rpd for the sake of
                                      transparency and the  practices in
                                      the matter?</div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Where did the resource transfer
                                      proposal version 5.0 come from?</div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>We seem to have abandoned the
                                      PDP and its key underlining
                                      principles.</div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Regards </div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>--</div>
                                    <div>Arnaud </div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Le mer. 9 déc. 2020 à
                                      16:25, Ashok &lt;<a rel="nofollow
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                                        <p
                                          \
                style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>Dear
                                              Community members,</span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>I  refer to AFRINIC’s Chief
                                              Executive Officer’s emails
                                              dated 30 November 2020 and
                                              03 December 2020 sent to
                                              the PDWG’s Co-Chairs to
                                              which I was in copy
                                              thereof. Copies of the
                                              said emails are also
                                              herewith attached.</span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>As  AFRINIC’s Legal Counsel I
                                              wish first to draw your
                                              attention to the PDWG’s
                                              Co-Chairs’ declaration of
                                              consensus dated 07 October
                                              2020 in respect of the
                                              policy entitled <i>'Board's
                                                Prerogatives'</i> –
                                              AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02-
                                              as well as the policy
                                              entitled <i>'Resource
                                                Transfer Policy'</i>
                                              –AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04-
                                              whereby in the latter
                                              case, consensus was
                                              initially declared on 07
                                              October 2020 and which was
                                              subsequently reversed by
                                              the Co-Chairs on 17
                                              October 2020.</span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>I  hold no mandate to
                                              interfere in the work of
                                              the PDWG and/or its
                                              independence I shall
                                              refrain from doing so.</span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>Nevertheless,  I deem it my \
duty to  tender my advice, for
                                              whatever it is worth and
                                              without in any way
                                              pressurising, the PDWG, an
                                              AFRINIC-related body to be
                                              bound by same.</span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>My  advice addresses the
                                              aforementioned two policy
                                              proposals <span> </span>and
                                              my purpose is to ensure
                                              that the work of the PDWG
                                              thereon <span>  </span>as
                                              well as its outcome are
                                              both legally in order. I
                                              have given anxious
                                              consideration to this
                                              matter and also bear in
                                              mind that where the acts
                                              and doings of the PDWG are
                                              not legally in order, same
                                              may have a detrimental
                                              effect on the image and
                                              reputation of AFRINIC both
                                              as a corporate body and
                                              responsible RIR. </span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>In  regard to the policy
                                              entitled <i>'Board's
                                                Prerogatives'</i>, I
                                              have taken note of
                                              AFRINIC's Staff Assessment
                                              report dated 04 November
                                              2020 - </span></b><b><span
                                              style=""><a rel="nofollow
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                                                \
                href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact"
                                                \
moz-do-not-send="true"><span>https://afrinic.net/policy/ proposals/2020-gen-004-d2# \
impact</span></a></span></b><b><span>. </span></b></p>  <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>You  may have noticed that \
the  said report has raised
                                              both serious governance
                                              and operational issues as
                                              well as areas of
                                              uncertainty observed in
                                              the proposed policy which
                                              has, up to now, remained
                                              unaddressed. </span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>Consequently,  it is my \
humble view that  the PDWG may in its wisdom
                                              consider to review its own
                                              stand in respect of these
                                              policy proposals so as to
                                              avoid any form of
                                              encroachment, potential or
                                              otherwise, <span> </span>onto
                                              the Board of Director’s
                                              prerogatives, the
                                              foundations of which are
                                              grounded in articles 3.4
                                              and 15 of the AFRINIC’s
                                              bylaws. </span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>However,  should the PDWG \
maintain  its stand in respect of
                                              the above, then the
                                              appropriate motion has to
                                              be made during an AGMM,
                                              pursuant to Article 7.7 of
                                              the bylaws to amend
                                              articles 3.4, 15(1), 15(2)
                                              and 15(3) of the bylaws
                                              thus allowing the powers
                                              of the Board of Directors
                                              to be subjected to the
                                              directives and guidance of
                                              the PDWG.</span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>As  regard the policy \
entitled  <i>'Resource Transfer
                                                Policy'</i>, the PDWG
                                              may be aware that the said
                                              policy (i.e. version 4
                                              thereof) is presently<s> </s>the
                                              subject of an appeal
                                              before the Appeal
                                              Committee and the matter
                                              is yet to be determined. \
</span></b></p>  <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>Consequently,  the PDWG is \
hereby  informed and advised that
                                              it is a matter of sound
                                              and settled legal
                                              principle that, pending
                                              the outcome of the Appeal
                                              Committee proceedings, it
                                              (PDWG) refrains from
                                              entertaining any request
                                              emanating from the
                                              relevant co-authors of the
                                              said policy proposals for
                                              further amending these
                                              proposals on the legal
                                              principle of <i>pendente
                                                lite</i>. It is also my
                                              considered view that any
                                              attempt in the meantime by
                                              the latter to submit a
                                              newly purported version of
                                              their policy proposal will
                                              be inadmissible
                                              (non-receivable) in law. \
</span></b></p>  <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>To  close my submission may I
                                              urge the PDWG to give due
                                              weight to my non-binding
                                              legal advice and
                                              consequently appreciate
                                              the real risk of AFRINIC,
                                              in the event that the
                                              Appeal proceedings are
                                              ignored, having to ratify
                                              and implement two policy
                                              proposals, on the same
                                              subject matter, which
                                              would lead to an
                                              unprecedented conflictual
                                              situation. </span></b></p>
                                        <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>Ashok.B.Radhakissoon.</span></b></p>
  <p
                                          \
style="text-align:justify;line-height:normal;"><b><span>Legal   Counsel<br \
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