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From: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa () unilorin ! edu ! ng>
Date: 2017-12-19 7:08:15
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Dear All,
I think there are better ways of resolving issues. I think we are taking
this to a level that would lead to a serious divisions and personal
conflicts.
Please and Please let us find a common ground.
I personally think the decisions of the Chairs are not helping. We need to
accommodate others view as much as we can.
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:53 AM, <rpd-request@afrinic.net> wrote:
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 23:56:02 +0000
> From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
> To: Noah <noah@neo.co.tz>
> Cc: AfriNIC Board of Directors' List <board@afrinic.net>, rpd
> <rpd@afrinic.net>, "ceo@afrinic.net" <ceo@afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners
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>
> Noah - please go and read his previous post to this list - and read this
> and that email together in context.
>
> He blatantly used the term neo colonialism in the past one - there was
> nothing ambiguous about it
>
> These emails need to be read together in context - he is deliberately
> attacking a part of the community that contributes in excess of 30% of the
> Afrinic revenue - he is making statements with no citation that are
> divisive in nature - he has accused South Africans of neo colonialism in
> blunt terms - and I have had enough. Is statements are drastically
> inaccurate and do not take into account the hundreds of millions of dollars
> invested in infrastructure outside of ZA.
>
> The implications are pretty damn clear - and I am sick of it. Are we one
> continent or not? Are we one Afrinic or not? Are we all African or not?
>
> I say yes - South African - Kenyan - Tanzanian - Nigerian - Senegalese -
> Togo - doesn't matter - every single member pays his dues and all opinions
> are equal - and if we choose to divide - that is the day that any dream of
> a United afrinic is dead - and that is what his emails seem to seek
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ________________________________
> From: Noah <noah@neo.co.tz>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 6:41:37 PM
> To: Andrew Alston
> Cc: Jackson Muthili; AfriNIC Board of Directors' List; rpd;
> ceo@afrinic.net
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners
>
> Andrew
>
> Be specific, what exactly did Jackson say that "introduced a racially
> biased context." and in what way specifically has he made "accusations of
> Neo colonialism "?
>
> Noah
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>>
> wrote:
> While I am sorely tempted to respond point to point in your email and give
> you a lesson in facts - I will not dignify this nonesense with such.
>
> I will however say this - this is the second time you have introduced a
> racially biased context into the PDP - and discounted the will of a
> significant portion of the member base - based of blatant unsubstantiated
> and inaccurate prejudice
>
> Chairs - please can this be dealt with - this individual has already made
> accusations of Neo colonialism with no basis - and nothing was done - but
> enough is enough.
>
> Every member of Afrinic is equal in their right to be heard - be they
> black or white - South African or Egyptian or Congolese or Senegalese. The
> type of racial drivel and divisive language is what tears this community
> apart - and is totally intolerable.
>
> Consider this an official complaint about conduct
>
> Andrew
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> _____________________________
> From: Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi@gmail.com<mailto:
> jacksonmuthi@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 14:15
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners
> To: Andrew Alston <andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.alston@
> liquidtelecom.com>>
> Cc: rpd <rpd@afrinic.net<mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Alston
> Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>>
> wrote:
> > As per attached
> >
> > _____________
>
> Extract of attached petitions in quotes below and comments therein
>
> > To: The AFRINIC POLICY DEVELOPMENT CO-CHAIRS
> > RE: IPv4 Soft Landing Bis
> > I, the undersigned, representing Afrihost SP hereby wish to state my
> clear and unambiguous
> > opposition to the IPv4 Soft Landing BIS proposal,
> AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-07
> > I oppose this policy because I believe that the policy in its current
> form is harmful to the industry
>
> Can the opposer or the convener of the opposers explain the harm that
> will befall our dear industry?
>
> > and
> > irrespective of the motives of the authors, will have the effect of
> limiting the growth of Internet
> > penetration in Africa.
>
> According to various sources, about 13.5% of the African population
> has Internet access. While Africa accounts for 15.0% of the world's
> population, only 6.2% of the World's Internet subscribers are
> Africans. Africans who have access to broadband connections are
> estimated to be in percentage of 1% or lower.
>
> These metrics tell a compelling story about a continent whose internet
> is growing, but is still constrained through infrastructure, save for
> one country that is South Africa, where all the opposers or their
> convener appears to emanate. While their concerns are selfishly in the
> interest of their business landscape and interests, the situation in
> the other 53 countries is a far cry from the reality in South Africa.
>
> For the internet to continue to grow, they will need affordable means
> to acquire IPv4 address space for a considerable time in the
> foreseeable future. Even if the IPv6 argument holds true, we have
> argued on here that IPv6 is the future, yes, but Africa, South Africa,
> Americas and the others are still far from that IPv6 future. We would
> otherwise not be having this conversation.
>
> For the Internet to grow in Africa and for the unconnected to still
> get connected, the need to preserve IPv4 space in the registry and
> still make it available to both new and existing operators is as
> extremely critical as the need itself to get connected. I cannot see a
> better policy to assure this than this one.
>
> > I further believe that to lock space up in a manner that ensures that it
> will still be unused after the
> > rest of the world has moved to V6,
>
> If the rest of the world has moved to IPv6, AFRINIC will not have run
> out of IPv6 space to dole out to our communities and businesses. They
> will all just get IPv6 simple and easy.
>
> > thereby wasting a precious African resource until such a point as
> > it will be worthless is completely contrary to the interests of the
> African industry as a whole.
>
> The principle is to fairly distribute the resource in a period of
> scarcity, not to greedily dole it out to the wealthiest. Do not ignore
> the fact that AFRINIC serves a community of 54 African countries. It
> does not sell IP addresses in a capitalist free market system where
> the richest take it all at the expense of the poorer. If the resource
> ever becomes worthless, IPv6 would be up and running, and the
> continent wins. The issue is not the *worth* or *value* of the
> resource, but getting everyone connected. Do not lose the purpose of
> the argument.
>
> > Finally, I believe that this policy and its implementation are in direct
> conflict with section 3.4.ii of the
> > AFRINIC bylaws, which reads (with particular emphasis on relevant
> wording indicated):
> > (Under Types and Objects of the company)
> > 3.4 The Company shall have, both within and outside the Republic of
> Mauritius, full capacity to carry
> > and/or undertake any business or activity, including, but not limited
> to, the following objects:
> > 3.4.i To provide the service of allocating and registering Internet
> resources for the purpose of
> > enabling communications via open system network protocols and to assist
> in the development and
> > growth of the Internet in the African region.
>
> > -) no comment on this one
>
> anyhoo I realized last call passed. My thoughts to the petitioners and
> their convener are to show that the points in their signed document
> are, although plausible in a different context, are mostly immaterial
> for all intents and purposes of this proposal.
>
> I trust in good judgement of chairs as discussions progress.
>
> J
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 04:54:43 +0000
> From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com>
> To: Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>
> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>,
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> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Removal of a director
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> Boubaker
>
> I can surmise it in one word ?hogwash?
>
> Regards.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18 Dec 2017, at 18:18, Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl<mailto:san
> der@steffann.nl>> wrote:
>
> Hi Boubakar,
>
> Can someone summarize this for us? I anticipate that it will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Sure! In fact, Andrew already anticipated most of that in his email:
>
> The summary though is as follows:
>
> ? YES the members can remove a director ? the process would be as follows:
>
> ? Utilizing clause 7.6.viii of the bylaws invoke an SGMM ? for the
> purposes of passing a special resolution to amend the bylaws to allow the
> community to remove a director ? and please note ? that special resolution
> could set the required voting percentage to remove said director at
> whatever they liked ? there is now low watermark ? it is subject to
> whatever is in the constitution (as per section 138.2 of the companies act)
> ? Once (a) was completed ? call a second SGMM ? for the express
> purpose of the removal of one or more directors ? send out the notice of
> said meeting with the required 14 day notice period - and then pass a
> resolution as permitted by the process performed in (a)
>
> Many of the details depend on whether legally Resource Members are seen as
> shareholders of Afrinic, or if only the 9 Registered Members (= the board)
> are considered as such. It is a question that I honestly have no answer to,
> and although Andrew expressed his opinion, he does note that he is not a
> lawyer and would like independent legal counsel on the matter.
>
> Cheers,
> Sander
>
>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><span \
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">I think there are better ways of \
resolving issues. I think we are taking this to a level that would lead to a serious \
divisions and personal conflicts.</span><p class="gmail-MsoNormal" \
style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Please and Please let us find a \
common ground.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I personally think the decisions \
of the Chairs are not helping. We need to accommodate others view as much as we can. \
<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNormal"><span> </span></p></div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:53 AM, \
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" \
target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
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2. Re: [Community-Discuss] Removal of a director (Badru Ntege)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 23:56:02 +0000<br>
From: Andrew Alston <<a \
href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a>><br>
To: Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>><br>
Cc: AfriNIC Board of Directors' List <<a \
href="mailto:board@afrinic.net">board@afrinic.net</a>>, rpd<br> <<a \
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, "<a \
href="mailto:ceo@afrinic.net">ceo@afrinic.net</a>" <<a \
href="mailto:ceo@afrinic.net">ceo@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners<br>
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<br>
Noah - please go and read his previous post to this list - and read this and that \
email together in context.<br> <br>
He blatantly used the term neo colonialism in the past one - there was nothing \
ambiguous about it<br> <br>
These emails need to be read together in context - he is deliberately attacking a \
part of the community that contributes in excess of 30% of the Afrinic revenue - he \
is making statements with no citation that are divisive in nature - he has accused \
South Africans of neo colonialism in blunt terms - and I have had enough. Is \
statements are drastically inaccurate and do not take into account the hundreds of \
millions of dollars invested in infrastructure outside of ZA.<br> <br>
The implications are pretty damn clear - and I am sick of it. Are we one continent \
or not? Are we one Afrinic or not? Are we all African or not?<br> <br>
I say yes - South African - Kenyan - Tanzanian - Nigerian - Senegalese - Togo - \
doesn't matter - every single member pays his dues and all opinions are equal - \
and if we choose to divide - that is the day that any dream of a United afrinic is \
dead - and that is what his emails seem to seek<br> <br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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______________________________<wbr>__<br>
From: Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>><br>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 6:41:37 PM<br>
To: Andrew Alston<br>
Cc: Jackson Muthili; AfriNIC Board of Directors' List; rpd; <a \
href="mailto:ceo@afrinic.net">ceo@afrinic.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
Be specific, what exactly did Jackson say that "introduced a racially biased \
context." and in what way specifically has he made "accusations of Neo \
colonialism "?<br> <br>
Noah<br>
<br>
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Andrew Alston <<a \
href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a><mailto:<a \
href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@<wbr>liquidtelecom.com</a>>> \
wrote:<br> While I am sorely tempted to respond point to point in your email and give \
you a lesson in facts - I will not dignify this nonesense with such.<br> <br>
I will however say this - this is the second time you have introduced a racially \
biased context into the PDP - and discounted the will of a significant portion of the \
member base - based of blatant unsubstantiated and inaccurate prejudice<br> <br>
Chairs - please can this be dealt with - this individual has already made accusations \
of Neo colonialism with no basis - and nothing was done - but enough is enough.<br> \
<br> Every member of Afrinic is equal in their right to be heard - be they black or \
white - South African or Egyptian or Congolese or Senegalese. The type of racial \
drivel and divisive language is what tears this community apart - and is totally \
intolerable.<br> <br>
Consider this an official complaint about conduct<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
Get Outlook for iOS<<a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://aka.ms/o0ukef</a>><br> _____________________________<br>
From: Jackson Muthili <<a \
href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a><<wbr>mailto:<a \
href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>><wbr>><br>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 14:15<br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners<br>
To: Andrew Alston <<a \
href="mailto:andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.com">andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a><mailto:<a \
href="mailto:andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.com">andrew.alston@<wbr>liquidtelecom.com</a>>><br>
Cc: rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a><mailto:<a \
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@<wbr>afrinic.net</a>>><br> <br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Alston<br>
<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a><mailto:<a \
href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@<wbr>liquidtelecom.com</a>>> \
wrote:<br> > As per attached<br>
><br>
> _____________<br>
<br>
Extract of attached petitions in quotes below and comments therein<br>
<br>
> To: The AFRINIC POLICY DEVELOPMENT CO-CHAIRS<br>
> RE: IPv4 Soft Landing Bis<br>
> I, the undersigned, representing Afrihost SP hereby wish to state my clear and \
unambiguous<br> > opposition to the IPv4 Soft Landing BIS proposal, \
AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-07<br> > I oppose this policy because I believe that the \
policy in its current form is harmful to the industry<br> <br>
Can the opposer or the convener of the opposers explain the harm that<br>
will befall our dear industry?<br>
<br>
> and<br>
> irrespective of the motives of the authors, will have the effect of limiting the \
growth of Internet<br> > penetration in Africa.<br>
<br>
According to various sources, about 13.5% of the African population<br>
has Internet access. While Africa accounts for 15.0% of the world's<br>
population, only 6.2% of the World's Internet subscribers are<br>
Africans. Africans who have access to broadband connections are<br>
estimated to be in percentage of 1% or lower.<br>
<br>
These metrics tell a compelling story about a continent whose internet<br>
is growing, but is still constrained through infrastructure, save for<br>
one country that is South Africa, where all the opposers or their<br>
convener appears to emanate. While their concerns are selfishly in the<br>
interest of their business landscape and interests, the situation in<br>
the other 53 countries is a far cry from the reality in South Africa.<br>
<br>
For the internet to continue to grow, they will need affordable means<br>
to acquire IPv4 address space for a considerable time in the<br>
foreseeable future. Even if the IPv6 argument holds true, we have<br>
argued on here that IPv6 is the future, yes, but Africa, South Africa,<br>
Americas and the others are still far from that IPv6 future. We would<br>
otherwise not be having this conversation.<br>
<br>
For the Internet to grow in Africa and for the unconnected to still<br>
get connected, the need to preserve IPv4 space in the registry and<br>
still make it available to both new and existing operators is as<br>
extremely critical as the need itself to get connected. I cannot see a<br>
better policy to assure this than this one.<br>
<br>
> I further believe that to lock space up in a manner that ensures that it will \
still be unused after the<br> > rest of the world has moved to V6,<br>
<br>
If the rest of the world has moved to IPv6, AFRINIC will not have run<br>
out of IPv6 space to dole out to our communities and businesses. They<br>
will all just get IPv6 simple and easy.<br>
<br>
> thereby wasting a precious African resource until such a point as<br>
> it will be worthless is completely contrary to the interests of the African \
industry as a whole.<br> <br>
The principle is to fairly distribute the resource in a period of<br>
scarcity, not to greedily dole it out to the wealthiest. Do not ignore<br>
the fact that AFRINIC serves a community of 54 African countries. It<br>
does not sell IP addresses in a capitalist free market system where<br>
the richest take it all at the expense of the poorer. If the resource<br>
ever becomes worthless, IPv6 would be up and running, and the<br>
continent wins. The issue is not the *worth* or *value* of the<br>
resource, but getting everyone connected. Do not lose the purpose of<br>
the argument.<br>
<br>
> Finally, I believe that this policy and its implementation are in direct \
conflict with section 3.4.ii of the<br> > AFRINIC bylaws, which reads (with \
particular emphasis on relevant wording indicated):<br> > (Under Types and Objects \
of the company)<br> > 3.4 The Company shall have, both within and outside the \
Republic of Mauritius, full capacity to carry<br> > and/or undertake any business \
or activity, including, but not limited to, the following objects:<br> > 3.4.i To \
provide the service of allocating and registering Internet resources for the purpose \
of<br> > enabling communications via open system network protocols and to assist \
in the development and<br> > growth of the Internet in the African region.<br>
<br>
> -) no comment on this one<br>
<br>
anyhoo I realized last call passed. My thoughts to the petitioners and<br>
their convener are to show that the points in their signed document<br>
are, although plausible in a different context, are mostly immaterial<br>
for all intents and purposes of this proposal.<br>
<br>
I trust in good judgement of chairs as discussions progress.<br>
<br>
J<br>
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From: Badru Ntege <<a \
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To: Sander Steffann <<a \
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Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a \
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Removal of a director<br>
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Boubaker<br>
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I can surmise it in one word ?hogwash?<br>
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Regards.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
On 18 Dec 2017, at 18:18, Sander Steffann <<a \
href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a><mailto:<a \
href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">san<wbr>der@steffann.nl</a>>> wrote:<br> <br>
Hi Boubakar,<br>
<br>
Can someone summarize this for us? I anticipate that it will be very much \
appreciated.<br> <br>
Sure! In fact, Andrew already anticipated most of that in his email:<br>
<br>
The summary though is as follows:<br>
<br>
? YES the members can remove a director ? the process would be as follows:<br>
<br>
? Utilizing clause 7.6.viii of the bylaws invoke an SGMM ? for the purposes of \
passing a special resolution to amend the bylaws to allow the community to remove a \
director ? and please note ? that special resolution could set the required voting \
percentage to remove said director at whatever they liked ? there is now low \
watermark ? it is subject to whatever is in the constitution (as per section 138.2 of \
the companies act)<br> ? Once (a) was completed ? call a second SGMM ? for the \
express purpose of the removal of one or more directors ? send out the notice of said \
meeting with the required 14 day notice period - and then pass a resolution as \
permitted by the process performed in (a)<br> <br>
Many of the details depend on whether legally Resource Members are seen as \
shareholders of Afrinic, or if only the 9 Registered Members (= the board) are \
considered as such. It is a question that I honestly have no answer to, and although \
Andrew expressed his opinion, he does note that he is not a lawyer and would like \
independent legal counsel on the matter.<br> <br>
Cheers,<br>
Sander<br>
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