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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Board-Discuss] UPDATE PRIVATE: Re: Draft Procedure for Removal of an NRO NC/ASO AC Member
From: Jean-Baptiste MILLOGO <jbmillogo () gmail ! com>
Date: 2017-12-17 10:29:19
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Hello Sunday,
Thank you for sharing board thoughts on the implementation of the 9.2
(a). However the proposed text does not mention the emergency mode and
how it could be triggered.
BTW, could you please elaborate on what can constitute an emergency as to
the removal of a NRO NC member?
Best regards,
JB
Le 12 déc. 2017 8:05 PM, "Sunday Folayan" <sfolayan@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hello Marcus, Kangamutima and the Community,
Let me make a clarification.
The thinking and intention of the Board is that:
1. Provision 9.2a can be triggered by 9.4 or by the Board when the need
arises, without waiting six months for a community meeting.
2. Such an action is indeed an emergency action. Such an action requires a
super majority of the board as noted in 9.2a and 1 above.
3. The Board is happy to make it 3/4 i.e. 7 members, instead of the current
super-majority of 2/3 i.e. 6 members, if there is no objection or other
view on the required majority from the community.
There is nothing inappropriate about such a provision. Indeed, the Board
(elected by the same community, acting on behalf of the community) approves
policies made by the Community, on behalf of the community.
Kind Regards ...
Sunday Folayan.
Chair, AFRINIC Board.
On 12/12/2017 11:34, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:
Hi Community,
In deed, I cannot also grasp the common sense behind the board revoking
community elected representative at the NRO NC/ASO AC. In fact, it does not
make sense for the board to do so but rather it is the community which can
revoke board members. I therefore don't support this provision.
Thanks
Marcus
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*From:* Jean-Baptiste MILLOGO <jbmillogo@gmail.com> <jbmillogo@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 12:40 PM
*To:* AFRINIC Communications; rpd@afrinic.net
*Subject:* Re: [rpd] Draft Procedure for Removal of an NRO NC/ASO AC Member
Dear Alan,
Thanks for this.
There is a problem with 9.2a (and 9.4 by implication). It is groundless for
the board to remove a member that was appointed by the community.
Officers should be removed by the mechanism by which they were appointed.
All the other proposed clauses follow this principle of like for like.
There is also lack of a procedure to recall members of the board of
directors. This is a good time to also deal with the recall of officers in
general.
Best regards,
JB
2017-11-22 11:57 GMT+00:00 AFRINIC Communications <
comms-announce@afrinic.net>:
Dear AFRINIC Community,
The Board has noted that there is no procedure for the removal of an NRO
NC/ASO AC member. The Board has drafted a procedure to be considered for
addition to the election guidelines at <https://www.afrinic.net/en/co
mmunity/elections/nro-aso-election?showall=1>.
The Board calls for comments for a 30 day period (ending on 22 December
2017). Please comment in the community-discuss mailing list.
The draft procedure appears below.
Alan Barrett
CEO, AFRINIC
——
The Board proposes the following procedure, to be considered for addition
to the election guidelines at:
<https://www.afrinic.net/en/community/elections/nro-aso-election?showall=1>
9. Removal
9.1 An NRO NC member appointed by the AFRINIC Board may be removed from
office at any time by a resolution of the Board.
9.2 An NRO NC member elected by the AFRINIC community may be removed from
office through any of the following methods:
(a) A supermajority vote (two-thirds) of the AFRINIC Board, meeting in
person or via teleconference, at a meeting where the agenda circulated in
advance includes the possible removal of an NRO NC representative.
(b) A majority vote held by the community present at an AFRINIC Public
Policy Meeting.
9.3 An individual whose removal is contemplated in terms of 9.2 is entitled
to at least 10 calendar days' notice of the meeting, and may appear before
and be heard at such a meeting. Removal may proceed with or without such
individual's presence at the meeting.
9.4 Any ten (10) bona fide members of the AFRINIC community may petition
the Board to initiate a removal in terms of 9.2(b), giving at least 40
days' notice and giving reasons for the contemplated removal. Such petition
shall be published. Unless the Board finds that the petition is invalid or
frivolous, the Board shall ensure that the agenda of the forthcoming Public
Policy Meeting includes the consideration of the removal of the NRO NC
member.
9.5 Eligibility to vote for the removal in terms of 9.2(b) shall be
determined in the same way as the eligibility to vote for the appointment
of candidates.
——
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<div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto">Hello Sunday,</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for sharing board thoughts on the \
implementation of the 9.2 (a). However the proposed text does not mention the \
emergency mode and how it could be triggered.</div><div dir="auto">BTW, could you \
please elaborate on what can constitute an emergency as to the removal of a NRO \
NC member?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards,</div><div \
dir="auto">JB</div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 12 \
déc. 2017 8:05 PM, "Sunday Folayan" <<a \
href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br \
type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hello Marcus, Kangamutima and the Community,<br>
Let me make a clarification.<br>
<br>
The thinking and intention of the Board is that:<br>
<br>
1. Provision 9.2a can be triggered by 9.4 or by the Board when the
need arises, without waiting six months for a community meeting.<br>
<br>
2. Such an action is indeed an emergency action. Such an action
requires a super majority of the board as noted in 9.2a and 1
above. <br>
<br>
3. The Board is happy to make it 3/4 i.e. 7 members, instead of the
current super-majority of 2/3 i.e. 6 members, if there is no
objection or other view on the required majority from the community.<br>
<br>
There is nothing inappropriate about such a provision. Indeed, the
Board (elected by the same community, acting on behalf of the
community) approves policies made by the Community, on behalf of the
community.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards ...<br>
<br>
Sunday Folayan.<br>
Chair, AFRINIC Board.<br>
<br>
<div class="m_3473904687080266179moz-cite-prefix">On 12/12/2017 11:34, Marcus K. \
G. Adomey wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>Hi Community,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In deed, I cannot also grasp the common sense behind the
board revoking community elected representative at the NRO
NC/ASO AC. In fact, it does not make sense for the board to do
so but rather it is the community which can revoke board
members. I therefore don't support this provision.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Marcus</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<hr>
<div id="m_3473904687080266179divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> \
Jean-Baptiste
MILLOGO <a class="m_3473904687080266179moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:jbmillogo@gmail.com" target="_blank"><jbmillogo@gmail.com></a><br> \
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 7, 2017 12:40 PM<br> <b>To:</b> AFRINIC \
Communications; <a class="m_3473904687080266179moz-txt-link-abbreviated" \
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br> \
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Draft Procedure for Removal of an NRO NC/ASO AC Member
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<div>Dear Alan,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for this.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There is a problem with 9.2a (and 9.4 by implication). It
is groundless for the board to remove a member that was
appointed by the community.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Officers should be removed by the mechanism by which they
were appointed. All the other proposed clauses follow this
principle of like for like.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There is also lack of a procedure to recall members of
the board of directors. This is a good time to also deal
with the recall of officers in general. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>JB</div>
<div class="m_3473904687080266179x_gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="m_3473904687080266179x_gmail_quote">2017-11-22 11:57 \
GMT+00:00
AFRINIC Communications <span dir="ltr"> <<a \
href="mailto:comms-announce@afrinic.net" \
target="_blank">comms-announce@afrinic.net</a>></span>:<br> <blockquote \
class="m_3473904687080266179x_gmail_quote"> <div>Dear AFRINIC Community,<br>
<br>
The Board has noted that there is no procedure for the
removal of an NRO NC/ASO AC member. The Board has
drafted a procedure to be considered for addition to
the election guidelines at <<a \
href="https://www.afrinic.net/en/community/elections/nro-aso-election?showall=1" \
target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/en/co<wbr>mmunity/elections/nro-aso-elec<wbr>tion?showall=1</a>>.<br>
<br>
The Board calls for comments for a 30 day period
(ending on 22 December 2017). Please comment in the
community-discuss mailing list.<br>
<br>
The draft procedure appears below.<br>
<br>
Alan Barrett<br>
CEO, AFRINIC<br>
<br>
——<br>
<br>
The Board proposes the following procedure, to be
considered for addition to the election guidelines at:<br>
<<a \
href="https://www.afrinic.net/en/community/elections/nro-aso-election?showall=1" \
target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/en/co<wbr>mmunity/elections/nro-aso-elec<wbr>tion?showall=1</a>><br>
<br>
9. Removal<br>
<br>
9.1 An NRO NC member appointed by the AFRINIC Board
may be removed from office at any time by a resolution
of the Board.<br>
<br>
9.2 An NRO NC member elected by the AFRINIC community
may be removed from office through any of the
following methods:<br>
<br>
(a) A supermajority vote (two-thirds) of the AFRINIC
Board, meeting in person or via teleconference, at a
meeting where the agenda circulated in advance
includes the possible removal of an NRO NC
representative.<br>
(b) A majority vote held by the community present at
an AFRINIC Public Policy Meeting.<br>
<br>
9.3 An individual whose removal is contemplated in
terms of 9.2 is entitled to at least 10 calendar days'
notice of the meeting, and may appear before and be
heard at such a meeting. Removal may proceed with or
without such individual's presence at the meeting.<br>
<br>
9.4 Any ten (10) bona fide members of the AFRINIC
community may petition the Board to initiate a removal
in terms of 9.2(b), giving at least 40 days' notice
and giving reasons for the contemplated removal. Such
petition shall be published. Unless the Board finds
that the petition is invalid or frivolous, the Board
shall ensure that the agenda of the forthcoming Public
Policy Meeting includes the consideration of the
removal of the NRO NC member.<br>
<br>
9.5 Eligibility to vote for the removal in terms of
9.2(b) shall be determined in the same way as the
eligibility to vote for the appointment of candidates.<br>
<br>
——</div>
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