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Subject: Re: [rpd] Board Composition
From: Christian Ahiauzu <christian.ahiauzu () uniport ! edu ! ng>
Date: 2016-05-11 15:42:09
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Dear Alen, Badru;
Thanks for the clarification and comments. I was only trying to view Owen's
fears from a futuristic perspective.
I do understand that the board members don't represent their organisations.
But if board members are supposed to be original AfriNIC members (which the
bylaw affirms to be "Registered Members") who are appointed by an election
process to become part of the board, they may, by extension, be said to be
"representing" the organisation through which they even became AfriNIC
members in the first place. Unfortunately, the bylaw did not say that board
membership is restricted to Resource Members, where the organisation
membership could apply. Bringing up the issue of more than one board member
from one organisation in the board, may need to question the type of
membership of the individual (Mike Silber in this case). If he came into
AfriNIC as an organisation contact for instance, then we can begin to worry
about what has been said so far. Then, my position stands.
However, I dont claim to be well knowledgeable in AfriNIC affairs. I stand
to be corrected.
Thank You.
*Christian Ahiauzu*
*Head, Networking UnitInformation And Communication Technology Center, *
*University of PortHarcourt,Mobile: +2348068610889*
*email: christian.ahiauzu@uniport.edu.ng <christian.ahiauzu@uniport.edu.ng>*
* christian.ahiauzu@gmail.com <christian.ahiauzu@gmail.com>*
* christianahiauzu@yahoo.com
<christianahiauzu@yahoo.com> (Personal matters only)*
*Skype: christian.ahiauzu*
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com>
wrote:
> Christian
>
>
> On 10 May 2016, at 6:53 am, Christian Ahiauzu <
> christian.ahiauzu@uniport.edu.ng> wrote:
>
> My big issue is that if "two" from one organisation is not checked, how
> will "four" from one organisation be checked. Hope we don't get there
> before realising what situation we find ourselves.
>
> As organisations globalise that is a possibility that I suppose needs to
> be addressed. We do have a number of organisations spanning the region.
> And it's true we say that members are on board as individuals but it's only
> normal for a grouping to follow a particular shared agenda especially if
> that agenda pays the rent.
>
> Waiting to see the collective way forward.
>
>
>
>
> Christian
> On May 3, 2016 4:41 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>
>> It has come to my attention that Mike Silber is running for the
>> independent seat that is opening on the AfriNIC board in the next election.
>>
>> While I consider Mike to be an excellent candidate and believe he would
>> be a true asset to the AfriNIC board, I have a concern that I must express.
>> This concern has nothing to do with Mike himself, but rather is a concern
>> about organizational structure.
>>
>> There are only 8 elected members of the AfriNIC board. If Mike Silber is
>> elected, then 25% of the elected board seats would be held by employees of
>> Liquid Telecom. Personally, I do not feel that the board can properly
>> represent the diversity of the AfriNIC community if we allow multiple board
>> seats to be held by representatives from the same organization. While I do
>> not believe that Liquid has any sort of goal of organizational capture or
>> any nefarious intent whatsoever, the reality is that if this is allowed,
>> then it does create the possibility for some other organization to achieve
>> a form of organizational capture.
>>
>> The board has tremendous authority and responsibility within the AfriNIC
>> organization. As such, I think it is important to consider these generic
>> structural issues seriously, no matter how much we may like and admire the
>> candidates in question.
>>
>> Again, this is not personal. If it were, I'd be endorsing Mike rather
>> than calling his candidacy into question.
>>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Alen, Badru;<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the clarification and \
comments. I was only trying to view Owen's fears from a futuristic \
perspective.</div><div><br></div><div>I do understand that the board members \
don't represent their organisations. But if board members are supposed to be \
original AfriNIC members (which the bylaw affirms to be "Registered \
Members") who are appointed by an election process to become part of the board, \
they may, by extension, be said to be "representing" the organisation \
through which they even became AfriNIC members in the first place. Unfortunately, the \
bylaw did not say that board membership is restricted to Resource Members, where the \
organisation membership could apply. Bringing up the issue of more than one board \
member from one organisation in the board, may need to question the type of \
membership of the individual (Mike Silber in this case). If he came into AfriNIC as \
an organisation contact for instance, then we can begin to worry about what has been \
said so far. Then, my position stands.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I dont claim \
to be well knowledgeable in AfriNIC affairs. I stand to be \
corrected.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank \
You.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div \
dir="ltr"><div><font color="#33cc00"><b>Christian Ahiauzu</b><br><i><b><font \
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Head, Networking Unit<br>Information And \
Communication Technology Center, </font></b></i></font></div> <div><i><b><font \
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#33cc00">University of \
PortHarcourt,<br>Mobile: +2348068610889</font></b></i></div><div><i><b><font \
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#33cc00">email: <a \
href="mailto:christian.ahiauzu@uniport.edu.ng" \
target="_blank">christian.ahiauzu@uniport.edu.ng</a></font></b></i></div><div><i><b><font \
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#33cc00"> <a \
href="mailto:christian.ahiauzu@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">christian.ahiauzu@gmail.com</a></font></b></i></div><div><i><b><font \
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#33cc00"> <a \
href="mailto:christianahiauzu@yahoo.com" \
target="_blank">christianahiauzu@yahoo.com</a> (Personal matters \
only)</font></b></i></div><div><i><b><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" \
color="#33cc00">Skype: \
christian.ahiauzu</font></b></i></div><div><br></div></div></div></div> <br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Badru Ntege <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" \
target="_blank">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">
<div>Christian<br>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
</div><span class="">
<div><br>
On 10 May 2016, at 6:53 am, Christian Ahiauzu <<a \
href="mailto:christian.ahiauzu@uniport.edu.ng" \
target="_blank">christian.ahiauzu@uniport.edu.ng</a>> wrote:<br> </div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p dir="ltr">My big issue is that if "two" from one organisation is not \
checked, how will "four" from one organisation be checked. Hope we \
don't get there before realising what situation we find ourselves.</p> \
</blockquote> </span><div> As organisations globalise that is a possibility that I \
suppose needs to be addressed. We do have a number of organisations spanning the \
region. And it's true we say that members are on board as individuals but \
it's only normal for a grouping to follow a particular shared agenda especially \
if that agenda pays the rent. </div> <div><br>
</div>
<div>Waiting to see the collective way forward. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p dir="ltr">Christian</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On May 3, 2016 4:41 PM, "Owen \
DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" \
target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"> \
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""> It has come to my attention that Mike Silber \
is running for the independent seat that is opening on the AfriNIC board in the next \
election.<br> <br>
While I consider Mike to be an excellent candidate and believe he would be a true \
asset to the AfriNIC board, I have a concern that I must express. This concern has \
nothing to do with Mike himself, but rather is a concern about organizational \
structure.<br> <br>
There are only 8 elected members of the AfriNIC board. If Mike Silber is elected, \
then 25% of the elected board seats would be held by employees of Liquid Telecom. \
Personally, I do not feel that the board can properly represent the diversity of the \
AfriNIC community if we allow multiple board seats to be held by representatives \
from the same organization. While I do not believe that Liquid has any sort of goal \
of organizational capture or any nefarious intent whatsoever, the reality is that if \
this is allowed, then it does create the possibility for some other organization to \
achieve a form of organizational capture.<br> <br>
The board has tremendous authority and responsibility within the AfriNIC \
organization. As such, I think it is important to consider these generic structural \
issues seriously, no matter how much we may like and admire the candidates in \
question.<br> <br>
Again, this is not personal. If it were, I'd be endorsing Mike rather than calling \
his candidacy into question. <br> <br></span><span class="">
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