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Subject: Re: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS
From: ALAIN AINA <aalain () trstech ! net>
Date: 2016-05-06 9:48:19
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> On May 4, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>
> Alain,
>
> > Board members are also bind by some fiduciary, structural and cultural \
> > restrictions. One accepts to follow them by joining a board. Otherwise, remain \
> > an active community member and keep all your abilities.
>
> I agree on Fiduciary – as defined by the companies act
> I agree on structural – as defined by the bylaws
I would also add as defined by "Best practices" and "Good judgments"
>
> Cultural? There I have questions. Which culture? Franco? Anglo? Arab? Portuguese? \
> Or do you refer to the "AfriNIC culture", in which case, who defines this culture? \
> What are its strictures and rules? Is it defined by you? Me? The combined \
> membership base, which would have a majority impact?
> Pray tell, what is this mystery culture and who is responsible for its definitions \
> and the restrictions it places? Are we not a multi-cultural entity that celebrates \
> its differences to be unique and not bound by such a definition? Do we not welcome \
> members from all faiths, creeds, backgrounds, languages and ethnicities? And as \
> such should our culture not be constantly evolving as our membership base grows and \
> evolves? Or do we need a culture committee to define this for us?
Every Organisation/Company has its organisational culture, which can be read through \
its vision, mission, values, principles, rules, etc….
Back to AFRINIC the Community and RIR("Regional" Internet Registry), it is composed \
of people and entities from different cultures. The leaders, Directors and Trustees \
are expected to build a workable environment from this diversity, which suit best \
the region and do their utmost to achieve what section 3 of ICP-2[*] prescribed. \
Doing so, they demonstrate that they know and understand very well the \
responsibilities they carries as well as the restrictions it brings.
We've started some reflexions from the paper below and it may be good to see how it \
can help this discussion. \
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/top-down-bottom-up-what-works-best-which-ecosystem-alain-aina
* https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012-02-25-en \
<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012-02-25-en>
—Alain
>
> Andrew
>
> >
> > As regards to the rest of the board and statements to this effect. As stated, \
> > the chair of the board and the vice chair I believe and it is my opinion require \
> > institutional memory beyond the length that most of the members of the board \
> > currently have (I advocate for a position where any person who is chairing the \
> > board should have at least 2 years on the board for this reason).
> > Does this mean we have a weak board? Not at all, on the contrary, and again I \
> > state this as an opinion, is a very strong board, with diversity and an ability \
> > to work together. I have nothing but respect for my current fellow board \
> > members.
> > Strength is found in diversity, and in knowing ones strengths, but more in \
> > knowing ones weaknesses, and working within those confines to create the best \
> > possible outcome. My advocacy states what I believe is the best possible \
> > outcome, this is my opinion, and I make no apologies for it.
> > This is the last email I will be responding to on this topic on the RPD list \
> > however, since it is the members who elect, let the discussion move to the \
> > members list where it belongs.
> > Andrew
> >
> > From: ALAIN AINA <aalain@trstech.net <mailto:aalain@trstech.net>>
> > Date: Wednesday, 4 May 2016 at 11:45 AM
> > To: AfriNIC List <rpd@afrinic.net <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS
> >
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > > On May 4, 2016, at 12:08 AM, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com \
> > > <mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
> > > Jean-Robert,
> > >
> > > One last question before I head to bed.
> >
> >
> > Hope you had a good sleep.
> > >
> > > How should the community ask anyone to act in the best interests of anything, \
> > > while telling them to remain neutral and silent when they believe that one \
> > > course of action will strengthen the organisation and another could potentially \
> > > weaken it?
> >
> >
> > How can a board put itself in the scenario described in the email [1] ? The \
> > Chair and vice-chair seats are due for election this year. And should both lose \
> > can one conclude that no one is capable of being chair ?
> > They were elected in the chairmanship positions despite the community warning in \
> > Tunis. That goes against board good governance...
> > Are we saying that other board members are not qualified including yourself ? \
> > Shall we interpret this to mean that we have a weak board ?
> > Thanks
> >
> > —Alain
> >
> > [1]
> > I need to also point out, in the event of the board losing both Sunday
> > and Hytham, and the independent seat going to a weak candidate,
> > AfriNIC will be in serious trouble. Firstly, I personally do not
> > believe that the board has anyone who is anywhere close to as capable
> > as Sunday or Hytham for the positions of chair and vice chair
> > respectively, and whoever comes in could not take those positions no
> > matter how strong, since those positions require institutional
> > knowledge that comes from time served on the board. My reasoning for
> > endorsing Mike is made plain above.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > And finally, to end this email with a quote:
> > >
> > > "Why should we cherish "objectivity", as if ideas were innocent, as if they \
> > > don't serve one interest or another? Surely, we want to be objective if that \
> > > means telling the truth as we see it, not concealing information that may be \
> > > embarrassing to our point of view. But we don't want to be objective if it \
> > > means pretending that ideas don't play a part in the social struggles of our \
> > > time, that we don't take sides in those struggles.
> > > Indeed, it is impossible to be neutral. In a world already moving in certain \
> > > directions, where wealth and power are already distributed in certain ways, \
> > > neutrality means accepting the way things are now. It is a world of clashing \
> > > interests – war against peace, nationalism against internationalism, equality \
> > > against greed, and democracy against elitism – and it seems to me both \
> > > impossible and undesirable to be neutral in those conflicts." Howard Zinn – \
> > > Declarations of Independence: Cross-Examining American Ideology
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > From: Hountomey Jean Robert <jrhountomey@gmail.com \
> > > <mailto:jrhountomey@gmail.com>>
> > > Date: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 at 9:56 PM
> > > To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com \
> > > <mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>>
> > > Cc: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com \
> > > <mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com>>, abel ELITCHA <kmw.elitcha@gmail.com \
> > > <mailto:kmw.elitcha@gmail.com>>, "AfriNIC RPD MList." <rpd@afrinic.net \
> > > <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>>
> > > Subject: Re: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS
> > >
> > > A board member endorsing a candidate like this is a concern.
> > > How should the community trust board members' objectivity and commitment to \
> > > put the interest of the Global public interest as a whole in front of any \
> > > particular interests. Thanks.
> > > Regards.
> > > Jean-Robert
> > >
> > > 2016-05-03 13:08 GMT-05:00 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com \
> > > <mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>>:
> > > > Let me quote from the below email which you seem not to have read, so I will \
> > > > bold it, and italic it:
> > > > I state openly that I do NOT yet know the entire slate, however, due
> > > > to time limitations and knowing what I know about the candidates I
> > > > refer to below, as well as at least some of the candidates running
> > > > against them (which I have heard from those candidates running
> > > > directly)
> > > >
> > > > So, pray tell, what privileged information Badru?
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com \
> > > > <mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com>>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 at 9:04 PM
> > > > To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com \
> > > > <mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>>, abel ELITCHA \
> > > > <kmw.elitcha@gmail.com <mailto:kmw.elitcha@gmail.com>>, "AfriNIC RPD MList." \
> > > > <rpd@afrinic.net <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>>
> > > > Subject: RE: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > we may not see eye to eye on every other issue but as hard as it may be lets \
> > > > show a touch of humility and respect for the community. As board member you \
> > > > have access to privileged information that one can clearly see you used \
> > > > wrongly here.
> > > > Please give the community some respect and offer an apology. NOMCOM has not \
> > > > yet released the slate you of all people should not be sending this out to \
> > > > your lists. Unless you also know the outcome of NOMCOM.
> > > > Lets not continue to defend the indefensible.
> > > >
> > > > this is tantamount to abuse of office but then again someone will ask under \
> > > > which bylaw. My answer is under the un written rule of common sense and \
> > > > mutual respect, and fairness for all candidates.
> > > > Admit that you errored its only human to do so.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > >
> > > > bn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Andrew Alston [Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com \
> > > > <mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:38 PM
> > > > To: abel ELITCHA; AfriNIC RPD MList.
> > > > Subject: Re: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS
> > > >
> > > > Hi Abel,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I advocated for candidates. If you notice I clearly stated, I do not \
> > > > know who is on the slate. I do not have a final slate. However, I know who \
> > > > the candidates are that I support. I have every right to lobby for those \
> > > > candidates at any point. Just as any candidate or any other person has the \
> > > > right to lobby for their candidates.
> > > > I did not send that email as a board member, I sent it as a personal \
> > > > individual. I stand by what I said, and I stand by those endorsements.
> > > > As for the allegations about people being paid. That is completely false and \
> > > > a libellous allegation that was investigated and found to have no merit, as \
> > > > resolutions published will attest to.
> > > > I stand by every word I said in the below email, and I will not, and would \
> > > > not retract a single word of it.
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: abel ELITCHA <kmw.elitcha@gmail.com <mailto:kmw.elitcha@gmail.com>>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 at 8:33 PM
> > > > To: "AfriNIC RPD MList." <rpd@afrinic.net <mailto:rpd@afrinic.net>>
> > > > Subject: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I got to see the mail below from a board member. It concerned me as i raised \
> > > > some importants points:
> > > > 1- While according to the election timeline \
> > > > (http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process \
> > > > <http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process>), the \
> > > > NOMCOM is evaluating the candidates and has not yet announced the slates, the \
> > > > board member started the campaign to
> > > > influence the process and the vote
> > > >
> > > > 2- He is pushing for a candidate from his company
> > > >
> > > > 3- He issued an arbitrary judgment on the ability of the community to decide
> > > >
> > > > 4- I recalled that it is the same board member who admitted in 2014 that he \
> > > > influenced the elections by paying for people to come and vote for him. The \
> > > > disclosure of which caused two board members to resign for breaching NDA.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to take a bit of an unusual step for me here, as promised in
> > > > earlier emails, and I am now ready to officially endorse certain
> > > > candidates for the AfriNIC elections.
> > > >
> > > > I state openly that I do NOT yet know the entire slate, however, due
> > > > to time limitations and knowing what I know about the candidates I
> > > > refer to below, as well as at least some of the candidates running
> > > > against them (which I have heard from those candidates running
> > > > directly), I feel I'm in a position to take a strong and unequivocal
> > > > stance here and am ready to state to the community at large my views
> > > > on this.
> > > >
> > > > Hence, in the next AfriNIC election, there are three seats open, one
> > > > independent seat, one north african seat and one west african seat.
> > > >
> > > > On the West African seat, I am endorsing Sunday Folayan. Sunday is
> > > > the current chair of the AfriNIC board, and despite many trying
> > > > circumstances in the year and half since he has taken the chair,
> > > > AfriNIC has made tremendous progress. Indeed, in Pointe Noir we were
> > > > credited with giving the community transparent information and
> > > > financials for the first time in 10 years. Sunday and his leadership
> > > > played a huge part in this and his institutional knowledge and the way
> > > > he has run the board have been critical to the improved situation we
> > > > are starting to find ourselves in.
> > > >
> > > > On the North African seat, I am endorsing Hytham Ek-Nakhal. Hytham is
> > > > currently the deputy chair of the board, and again, in the year since
> > > > he took that position, he has proved very capable and also carries
> > > > deep institutional knowledge from a prolonged tenure on the board. I
> > > > have found him to be fair, reasonable and willing to both have his
> > > > views and debate the views of others in the search for a consensus
> > > > approach. Hence, I strongly believe that his tenure on the board
> > > > should continue.
> > > >
> > > > On the Independent seat, here I am endorsing Mike Silber, who many of
> > > > you know. I do not know if the current board member for this seat is
> > > > going to be running again, but irrespective of that my endorsement
> > > > will stand, due to specific skills I believe the AfriNIC board
> > > > requires. Mike has many many years in the industry, and his work with
> > > > ICANN and within the addressing space is well documented and well
> > > > respected. In addition to that, Mike is legally trained and that is
> > > > something we desperately need within AfriNIC as we look at the bylaws,
> > > > as we move into an era where there is a governance committee, there
> > > > are bids of control and various other issues. It is that legal skill
> > > > set that we are missing directly on the board (yes, we have legal
> > > > council, but it is a very different thing to have someone who has that
> > > > kind of legal knowledge actually sitting on the board).
> > > >
> > > > I need to also point out, in the event of the board losing both Sunday
> > > > and Hytham, and the independent seat going to a weak candidate,
> > > > AfriNIC will be in serious trouble. Firstly, I personally do not
> > > > believe that the board has anyone who is anywhere close to as capable
> > > > as Sunday or Hytham for the positions of chair and vice chair
> > > > respectively, and whoever comes in could not take those positions no
> > > > matter how strong, since those positions require institutional
> > > > knowledge that comes from time served on the board. My reasoning for
> > > > endorsing Mike is made plain above.
> > > >
> > > > As such, for those of you who are opting to issue proxies and wish to
> > > > issue proxies to myself or via myself, this is how I will be voting.
> > > > Those of you who are voting electronically, I encourage you when the
> > > > slate comes out to study each and every candidate – but I am confident
> > > > that what I have said above will ring true, and I ask every member of
> > > > this list to get out there and use your vote, either for one of these
> > > > candidates or otherwise one of the others when the slate comes out –
> > > > but please, make sure you vote, either via proxy or via online or in
> > > > person. I cannot stress how many critical issues are going to come up
> > > > in the next year or two, and without a strong and independent board we
> > > > could face serious issues.
> > > >
> > > > Please feel free to address any questions to me. As stated in
> > > > previous emails, as soon as the proxy generation system is open, for
> > > > those that wish to use that route, I will supply details on how to use
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andrew "
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
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type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 4, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Andrew Alston <<a \
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class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:</div><br \
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<div class="">> Board members are also bind by some fiduciary, structural and \
cultural restrictions. One accepts to follow them by joining a board. \
Otherwise, remain an active community member and keep all your abilities.</div> \
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<div class="">I agree on Fiduciary – as defined by the companies act </div>
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bylaws</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br \
class=""></div>I would also add as defined by "Best practices" and "Good \
judgments" <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: \
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<div class="">Cultural? There I have questions. Which culture? Franco? \
Anglo? Arab? Portuguese? Or do you refer to the "AfriNIC culture", in which case, who \
defines this culture? What are its strictures and rules? Is it defined by you? Me? \
The combined membership base, which would have a majority impact?</div>
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<div class="">Pray tell, what is this mystery culture and who is responsible for its \
definitions and the restrictions it places? Are we not a multi-cultural entity \
that celebrates its differences to be unique and not bound by such a definition? Do \
we not welcome members from all faiths, creeds, backgrounds, languages and \
ethnicities? And as such should our culture not be constantly evolving as our \
membership base grows and evolves? Or do we need a culture committee to define this \
for us?</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div>Every \
Organisation/Company has its organisational culture, which can be read through its \
vision, mission, values, principles, rules, etc….</div><div><br \
class=""></div><div>Back to AFRINIC the Community and RIR("Regional" Internet \
Registry), it is composed of people and entities from different cultures. The \
leaders, Directors and Trustees are expected to build a workable environment \
from this diversity, which suit best the region and do their utmost to achieve \
what section 3 of ICP-2[*] prescribed. Doing so, they demonstrate that they know and \
understand very well the responsibilities they carries as well as the restrictions it \
brings.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>We've started some reflexions from the \
paper below and it may be good to see how it can help this discussion.</div><div><a \
href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/top-down-bottom-up-what-works-best-which-ecosystem-alain-aina" \
class="">https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/top-down-bottom-up-what-works-best-which-ecosystem-alain-aina</a></div><div><br \
class=""></div></div><div><br class=""></div><div>* <a \
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012-02-25-en" \
class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012-02-25-en</a></div><div><br \
class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>—Alain</div><blockquote type="cite" \
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<div class="">As regards to the rest of the board and statements to this effect. \
As stated, the chair of the board and the vice chair I believe and it is my \
opinion require institutional memory beyond the length that most of the members of \
the board currently have (I advocate for a position where any person who is chairing \
the board should have at least 2 years on the board for this reason).</div> <div \
class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div class="">Does this mean we have a weak board? Not at all, on the contrary, and \
again I state this as an opinion, is a very strong board, with diversity and an \
ability to work together. I have nothing but respect for my current fellow \
board members.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Strength is found in diversity, and in knowing ones strengths, but more \
in knowing ones weaknesses, and working within those confines to create the best \
possible outcome. My advocacy states what I believe is the best possible \
outcome, this is my opinion, and I make no apologies for it.</div>
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<div class="">This is the last email I will be responding to on this topic on the RPD \
list however, since it is the members who elect, let the discussion move to the \
members list where it belongs.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">Andrew</div>
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class="">From: </span>ALAIN AINA <<a href="mailto:aalain@trstech.net" \
class="">aalain@trstech.net</a>><br class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" \
class="">Date: </span>Wednesday, 4 May 2016 at 11:45 AM<br class=""> <span \
style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span>AfriNIC List <<a \
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""> <span \
style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span>Re: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS<br \
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<div class="">On May 4, 2016, at 12:08 AM, Andrew Alston <<a \
href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" \
class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:</div> <br \
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class="">One last \
question before I head to bed.</div> </div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
Hope you had a good sleep. <br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: \
after-white-space;" class=""> <div class="">
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=""><br \
class=""> </div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class="">How should \
the community ask anyone to act in the best interests of anything, while telling them \
to remain neutral and silent when they believe that one course of action will \
strengthen the organisation and another could potentially weaken it?</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">How can a board put itself in the scenario described in the email \
[1] ? The Chair and vice-chair seats are due for election this year. </div> \
<div class="">And should both lose can one conclude that no one is capable of being \
chair ? </div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">They were elected in the chairmanship positions despite the \
community warning in Tunis. That goes against board good governance...</div> <div \
class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div class="">Are we saying that other board members are not qualified including \
yourself ? Shall we interpret this to mean that we have a weak board ?</div> <div \
class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div class="">Thanks</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">—Alain</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">[1]</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">I need to also point out, in the event of the board losing both \
Sunday</div> <div class="">and Hytham, and the independent seat going to a weak \
candidate,</div> <div class="">AfriNIC will be in serious trouble. Firstly, I \
personally do not</div> <div class="">believe that the board has anyone who is \
anywhere close to as capable</div> <div class="">as Sunday or Hytham for the \
positions of chair and vice chair</div> <div class="">respectively, and whoever comes \
in could not take those positions no</div> <div class="">matter how strong, since \
those positions require institutional</div> <div class="">knowledge that comes from \
time served on the board. My reasoning for</div> <div class="">endorsing Mike \
is made plain above.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: \
after-white-space;" class=""> <div class="">
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=""><br \
class=""> </div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class="">And finally, \
to end this email with a quote:</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; \
font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=""><i \
class=""><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(24, 24, 24); font-family: Merriweather, \
Georgia, serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; \
font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; \
font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 21px; widows: 1; background-color: \
rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">"Why should we cherish "objectivity", as if ideas were \
innocent, as if they don't serve one interest or another? Surely, we want to be \
objective if that means telling the truth as we see it, not concealing information \
that may be embarrassing to our point of view. But we don't want to be objective if \
it means pretending that ideas don't play a part in the social struggles of our time, \
that we don't take sides in those struggles.</span><br style="color: rgb(24, 24, 24); \
font-family: Merriweather, Georgia, serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; \
font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: \
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 21px; widows: 1; \
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> <br style="color: rgb(24, 24, 24); \
font-family: Merriweather, Georgia, serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; \
font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: \
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 21px; widows: 1; \
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> <span style="color: rgb(24, 24, 24); \
font-family: Merriweather, Georgia, serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; \
font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: \
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 21px; widows: 1; \
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Indeed, it is impossible to be \
neutral. In a world already moving in certain directions, where wealth and power are \
already distributed in certain ways, neutrality means accepting the way things are \
now. It is a world of clashing interests – war against peace, nationalism against \
internationalism, equality against greed, and democracy against elitism – and it \
seems to me both impossible and undesirable to be neutral in those \
conflicts." </span></b></i></div> <ul class="">
<li class=""><b class=""><i class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Howard \
Zinn – Declarations of Independence: Cross-Examining American \
Ideology</font></i></b></li></ul> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class="">
<div id="" class=""></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" \
class="">Andrew </div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: \
14px;" class=""><br class=""> </div>
<span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: \
14px;" class=""> <div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-align: left; \
border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; \
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" \
class="">From: </span>Hountomey Jean Robert <<a \
href="mailto:jrhountomey@gmail.com" class="">jrhountomey@gmail.com</a>><br \
class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span>Tuesday, 3 May 2016 at \
9:56 PM<br class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span>Andrew Alston \
<<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" \
class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br class=""> <span \
style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc: </span>Badru Ntege <<a \
href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" class="">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>>, \
abel ELITCHA <<a href="mailto:kmw.elitcha@gmail.com" \
class="">kmw.elitcha@gmail.com</a>>, "AfriNIC RPD MList." <<a \
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""> <span \
style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span>Re: [rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS<br \
class=""> </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">
<div class="">A board member endorsing a candidate like this is a \
concern. </div> <div class="">How should the community trust board members' \
objectivity and commitment to put the interest of the Global public interest as \
a whole in front of any particular interests. </div> <div class="">Thanks.</div>
<div class="">Regards.</div>
<div class="">Jean-Robert</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-03 13:08 GMT-05:00 Andrew Alston <span dir="ltr" \
class=""> <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank" \
class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>></span>:<br class=""> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex" type="cite"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word; font-size: \
14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">Let me quote from the below email which you seem not to have read, so I \
will bold it, and italic it:</div> <span class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div class=""><b class=""><i class="">I state openly that I do NOT yet know the \
entire slate,</i></b> however, due</div> <div class="">to time limitations and \
knowing what I know about the candidates I</div> <div class="">refer to below, as \
well as at least some of the candidates running</div> <div class="">against them <b \
class=""><i class="">(which I have heard from those candidates running</i></b></div> \
<div class=""><b class=""><i class="">directly)</i></b></div> </div>
<div class="">
<div class=""></div>
</div>
</span></div>
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">So, pray tell, what privileged information Badru? </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Andrew</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<span class="">
<div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-align: left; border-width: \
1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; \
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" \
class="">From: </span>Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" \
target="_blank" class="">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br class=""> <span \
style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span>Tuesday, 3 May 2016 at 9:04 PM<br \
class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span>Andrew Alston <<a \
href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank" \
class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>>, abel ELITCHA <<a \
href="mailto:kmw.elitcha@gmail.com" target="_blank" \
class="">kmw.elitcha@gmail.com</a>>, "AfriNIC RPD MList." <<a \
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br \
class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span>RE: [rpd] AFRINIC \
ELECTIONS<br class=""> </div>
<div class="">
<div class="h5">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, \
sans-serif;" class=""> <div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: \
10pt;" class="">Andrew <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">we may not see eye to eye on every other issue but as hard as it may be \
lets show a touch of humility and respect for the community. As board member \
you have access to privileged information that one can clearly see you used wrongly \
here. </div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Please give the community some respect and offer an apology. \
NOMCOM has not yet released the slate you of all people should not be sending this \
out to your lists. Unless you also know the outcome of NOMCOM.</div> <div \
class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div class="">Lets not continue to defend the indefensible. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">this is tantamount to abuse of office but then again someone will ask \
under which bylaw. My answer is under the un written rule of common sense and \
mutual respect, and fairness for all candidates.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Admit that you errored its only human to do so.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">regards</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">bn </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;" class="">
<hr class="">
<div style="direction:ltr" class=""><font face="Tahoma" size="2" class=""><b \
class="">From:</b> Andrew Alston [<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" \
target="_blank" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>]<br class=""> <b \
class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:38 PM<br class=""> <b class="">To:</b> \
abel ELITCHA; AfriNIC RPD MList.<br class=""> <b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] \
AFRINIC ELECTIONS<br class=""> </font><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""></div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">Hi Abel,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Yes, I advocated for candidates. If you notice I clearly stated, \
I do not know who is on the slate. I do not have a final slate. However, \
I know who the candidates are that I support. I have every right to lobby for \
those candidates at any point. Just as any candidate or any other person has \
the right to lobby for their candidates.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I did not send that email as a board member, I sent it as a personal \
individual. I stand by what I said, and I stand by those endorsements.</div> \
<div class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div class="">As for the allegations about people being paid. That is \
completely false and a libellous allegation that was investigated and found to have \
no merit, as resolutions published will attest to. </div> <div class=""><br \
class=""> </div>
<div class="">I stand by every word I said in the below email, and I will not, and \
would not retract a single word of it.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Andrew</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div class=""></div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<span class="">
<div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-align: left; border-width: \
1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; \
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" \
class="">From: </span>abel ELITCHA <<a href="mailto:kmw.elitcha@gmail.com" \
target="_blank" class="">kmw.elitcha@gmail.com</a>><br class=""> <span \
style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span>Tuesday, 3 May 2016 at 8:33 PM<br \
class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span>"AfriNIC RPD MList." \
<<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" \
class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""> <span style="font-weight:bold" \
class="">Subject: </span>[rpd] AFRINIC ELECTIONS<br class=""> </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">
<div class="">Hi</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I got to see the mail below from a board member. It concerned me as i \
raised some importants points:</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">1- While according to the election timeline (<a \
href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process" \
target="_blank" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process</a>), \
the NOMCOM is evaluating the candidates and has not yet announced the slates, the \
board member started the campaign to </div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">influence the process and the vote</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">2- He is pushing for a candidate from his company</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">3- He issued an arbitrary judgment on the ability of the community to \
decide </div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">4- I recalled that it is the same board member who admitted in \
2014 that he influenced the elections by paying for people to come and vote for \
him. The disclosure of which caused two board members to resign for breaching \
NDA.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Hi All,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I'm going to take a bit of an unusual step for me here, as promised \
in</div> <div class="">earlier emails, and I am now ready to officially endorse \
certain</div> <div class="">candidates for the AfriNIC elections.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I state openly that I do NOT yet know the entire slate, however, \
due</div> <div class="">to time limitations and knowing what I know about the \
candidates I</div> <div class="">refer to below, as well as at least some of the \
candidates running</div> <div class="">against them (which I have heard from those \
candidates running</div> <div class="">directly), I feel I'm in a position to take a \
strong and unequivocal</div> <div class="">stance here and am ready to state to the \
community at large my views</div> <div class="">on this.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Hence, in the next AfriNIC election, there are three seats open, \
one</div> <div class="">independent seat, one north african seat and one west african \
seat.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">On the West African seat, I am endorsing Sunday Folayan. Sunday \
is</div> <div class="">the current chair of the AfriNIC board, and despite many \
trying</div> <div class="">circumstances in the year and half since he has taken the \
chair,</div> <div class="">AfriNIC has made tremendous progress. Indeed, in \
Pointe Noir we were</div> <div class="">credited with giving the community \
transparent information and</div> <div class="">financials for the first time in 10 \
years. Sunday and his leadership</div> <div class="">played a huge part in this \
and his institutional knowledge and the way</div> <div class="">he has run the board \
have been critical to the improved situation we</div> <div class="">are starting to \
find ourselves in.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">On the North African seat, I am endorsing Hytham Ek-Nakhal. \
Hytham is</div> <div class="">currently the deputy chair of the board, and again, in \
the year since</div> <div class="">he took that position, he has proved very capable \
and also carries</div> <div class="">deep institutional knowledge from a prolonged \
tenure on the board. I</div> <div class="">have found him to be fair, \
reasonable and willing to both have his</div> <div class="">views and debate the \
views of others in the search for a consensus</div> <div class="">approach. \
Hence, I strongly believe that his tenure on the board</div> <div class="">should \
continue.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">On the Independent seat, here I am endorsing Mike Silber, who many \
of</div> <div class="">you know. I do not know if the current board member for \
this seat is</div> <div class="">going to be running again, but irrespective of that \
my endorsement</div> <div class="">will stand, due to specific skills I believe the \
AfriNIC board</div> <div class="">requires. Mike has many many years in the \
industry, and his work with</div> <div class="">ICANN and within the addressing space \
is well documented and well</div> <div class="">respected. In addition to that, \
Mike is legally trained and that is</div> <div class="">something we desperately need \
within AfriNIC as we look at the bylaws,</div> <div class="">as we move into an era \
where there is a governance committee, there</div> <div class="">are bids of control \
and various other issues. It is that legal skill</div> <div class="">set that \
we are missing directly on the board (yes, we have legal</div> <div class="">council, \
but it is a very different thing to have someone who has that</div> <div \
class="">kind of legal knowledge actually sitting on the board).</div> <div \
class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div class="">I need to also point out, in the event of the board losing both \
Sunday</div> <div class="">and Hytham, and the independent seat going to a weak \
candidate,</div> <div class="">AfriNIC will be in serious trouble. Firstly, I \
personally do not</div> <div class="">believe that the board has anyone who is \
anywhere close to as capable</div> <div class="">as Sunday or Hytham for the \
positions of chair and vice chair</div> <div class="">respectively, and whoever comes \
in could not take those positions no</div> <div class="">matter how strong, since \
those positions require institutional</div> <div class="">knowledge that comes from \
time served on the board. My reasoning for</div> <div class="">endorsing Mike \
is made plain above.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">As such, for those of you who are opting to issue proxies and wish \
to</div> <div class="">issue proxies to myself or via myself, this is how I will be \
voting.</div> <div class="">Those of you who are voting electronically, I encourage \
you when the</div> <div class="">slate comes out to study each and every candidate \
– but I am confident</div> <div class="">that what I have said above will ring \
true, and I ask every member of</div> <div class="">this list to get out there and \
use your vote, either for one of these</div> <div class="">candidates or otherwise \
one of the others when the slate comes out –</div> <div class="">but please, make \
sure you vote, either via proxy or via online or in</div> <div class="">person. \
I cannot stress how many critical issues are going to come up</div> <div class="">in \
the next year or two, and without a strong and independent board we</div> <div \
class="">could face serious issues.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Please feel free to address any questions to me. As stated \
in</div> <div class="">previous emails, as soon as the proxy generation system is \
open, for</div> <div class="">those that wish to use that route, I will supply \
details on how to use</div> <div class="">it.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Thanks</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Andrew "</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
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