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From: Keshwarsingh Nadan <keshwarsingh.nadan () millenium ! mu>
Date: 2014-10-27 16:07:38
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I guess it will be really easy to put "Africa First" when it comes to business, the \
day internet access is ‘truly' deregulated.
I sign the preference of being prudent and wise to exploit our resources and such \
markets to bridge the gaps.
From: Kofi ANSA AKUFO [mailto:kofi.ansa@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 October 2014 19:49
To: Keshwarsingh Nadan
Cc: rpd List; h.lu@anytimechinese.com
Subject: Re: [rpd] Afrinic policy proposal—Afrinic Service guild lines
Keshwarsingh
On 27 October 2014 18:31, Keshwarsingh Nadan \
<keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu<mailto:keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu>> wrote: A \
mobile telco operator in our region would never achieve such a usage due to:
a) Bandwidth pricing over HSDPA/HSPA or whatever technology is crazy.
b) Most of them still use carrier grade nat.
The company I worked for previously (ARIN region) would eat up a /13 quarterly, VPN \
services sold on the Asian market. ARIN never cared about content beneficial to their \
region or whatsoever.
Exactly but we face different challenges in our region one of them being the level of \
ICT infrastucture development. Its stragtegically wrong to align or follow such \
policies.
It will be prudent and wise to exploit our resources and such markets to bridge the \
gaps - (build solid infrastrucutres in our region, create jobs etc). I guess its \
difficult to put "Africa First" when it comes business right?
I believe same applies to our service region, unless of course a policy specifying \
‘resources are evaluated based on beneficial content to our region' ?
From: Kofi ANSA AKUFO [mailto:kofi.ansa@gmail.com<mailto:kofi.ansa@gmail.com>]
Sent: 27 October 2014 15:34
To: Keshwarsingh Nadan
Cc: rpd List; h.lu@anytimechinese.com<mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com>
Subject: RE: [rpd] Afrinic policy proposal—Afrinic Service guild lines
Hi Keshwarsingh,
On Oct 27, 2014 2:22 PM, "Keshwarsingh Nadan" \
<keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu<mailto:keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu>> wrote:
>
> Exhausting a /12 within a year is nothing.. In other words, Lu's business is \
> flourishing.
>
In deed "its nothing" - the last time I checked not even a mobile telco had achieved \
that in our region.
We must be tapping ourselves on the shoulder then if this translates to content \
beneficial to our region.
>
> From: rpd-bounces@afrinic.net<mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net> \
> [mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net<mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net>] On Behalf Of Kofi \
> ANSA AKUFO
> Sent: 27 October 2014 13:25
> To: Lu
> Cc: rpd
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Afrinic policy proposal—Afrinic Service guild lines
>
>
>
> Hello Lu
>
>
>
> On 27 October 2014 08:51, Lu \
> <h.lu@anytimechinese.com<mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com>> wrote:
> Hi
>
> W have been told our allocation is "under board review" for past 2 month, I wonder \
> how's that to be possible if board ha nothing to do with this?
>
>
> Amazing you have exhausted the /12 IPv4 (over a million IPv4 addresses) Allocated \
> to you within a year and requesting for more. What size are you requesting now?
>
> >
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> > > On 2014年10月27日, at 上午4:13, Bill Woodcock \
> > > <woody@pch.net<mailto:woody@pch.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Oct 27, 2014, at 3:22 AM, David Conrad \
> > > <drc@virtualized.org<mailto:drc@virtualized.org>> wrote:
> > > > > 5.Unless otherwise appealed, Afrinic board should not be directly involved \
> > > > > in IP allocation process.
> > > >
> > > > Agreed, although I do not think the board should be involved in appeals.
> > > >
> > > > It used to be that in at least two other RIRs that I'm familiar with (APNIC \
> > > > and ARIN), the board would _never_ be directly involved in the IP allocation \
> > > > process. The role of the boards of those two RIRs was to ensure the policy \
> > > > development process was followed correctly and to be ultimately responsible \
> > > > for the operation of the organization. I don't know if that's still the case.
> > >
> > > That is the case. In ARIN, there is an explicit wall between the board and the \
> > > resource allocation process, so that the board is never involved in specific \
> > > resource requests, reviews, or fulfillment. I believe that to be the case in \
> > > other RIRs as well.
> > > -Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I \
guess it will be really easy to put "Africa First" when it comes to business, the day \
internet access is ‘truly' deregulated.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I \
sign the preference of being prudent and wise to exploit our resources and such \
markets to bridge the gaps.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span \
lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> \
Kofi ANSA AKUFO [mailto:kofi.ansa@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 October 2014 19:49<br>
<b>To:</b> Keshwarsingh Nadan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> rpd List; h.lu@anytimechinese.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Afrinic policy proposal—Afrinic Service guild \
lines<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Keshwarsingh<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 27 October 2014 18:31, Keshwarsingh Nadan <<a \
href="mailto:keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu" \
target="_blank">keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A \
mobile telco operator in our region would never achieve such a usage due \
to:</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">a)</span><span \
style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Bandwidth \
pricing over HSDPA/HSPA or whatever technology is crazy.</span><o:p></o:p></p> \
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">b)</span><span \
style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Most \
of them still use carrier grade nat.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The \
company I worked for previously (ARIN region) would eat up a /13 quarterly, VPN \
services sold on the Asian market. ARIN never cared about content beneficial to \
their region or whatsoever.</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Exactly but we face different \
challenges in our region one of them being the level of ICT infrastucture \
development. Its stragtegically wrong to align or follow such policies.<br> <br>
It will be prudent and wise to exploit our resources and such markets to bridge the \
gaps - (build solid infrastrucutres in our region, create jobs etc).<o:p></o:p></p> \
</div> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I guess its difficult to put "Africa First" when it \
comes business right?<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I \
believe same applies to our service region, unless of course a policy specifying \
‘resources are evaluated based on beneficial content to our region' \
?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span \
lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> \
Kofi ANSA AKUFO [mailto:<a href="mailto:kofi.ansa@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">kofi.ansa@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 October 2014 15:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Keshwarsingh Nadan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> rpd List; <a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com" \
target="_blank">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [rpd] Afrinic \
policy proposal—Afrinic Service guild lines</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Hi Keshwarsingh,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>On Oct 27, 2014 2:22 PM, "Keshwarsingh Nadan" <<a \
href="mailto:keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu" \
target="_blank">keshwarsingh.nadan@millenium.mu</a>> wrote:<br> ><br>
> Exhausting a /12 within a year is nothing.. In other words, Lu's business is \
flourishing.<br> ><br>
><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>In deed "its nothing" - the last time I checked not even a mobile telco \
had achieved that in our region.<o:p></o:p></p> <p>We must be tapping ourselves on \
the shoulder then if this translates to content beneficial to our region.<br> \
<br> ><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net" \
target="_blank">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a> [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a>] On \
Behalf Of Kofi ANSA AKUFO<br> > Sent: 27 October 2014 13:25<br>
> To: Lu<br>
> Cc: rpd<br>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Afrinic policy proposal—Afrinic Service guild lines<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> Hello Lu<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> On 27 October 2014 08:51, Lu <<a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com" \
target="_blank">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> W have been told our allocation is "under board review" for past 2 \
month, I wonder how's that to be possible if board ha nothing to do with this?<br> \
><br> > <br>
><br>
> Amazing you have exhausted the /12 IPv4 (over a million IPv4 addresses) \
Allocated to you within a year and requesting for more. What size are you requesting \
now?<br> ><br>
> <br>
>><br>
>> This transmission is intended solely for the addressee(s) shown above.<br>
>> It may contain information that is privileged, confidential or<br>
>> otherwise protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use<br>
>> of this transmission or its contents by persons other than the intended \
addressee(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, \
please notify this office immediately and e-mail the original at the sender's address \
above by replying to this message and including the text of the transmission \
received.<br> >><br>
>> > On 2014<span style="font-family:"MS \
Gothic"">年</span>10<span style="font-family:"MS \
Gothic"">月</span>27<span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">日</span>, \
at <span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">上午</span>4:13, Bill Woodcock \
<<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net" target="_blank">woody@pch.net</a>> wrote:<br> \
>> ><br> >> ><br>
>> > On Oct 27, 2014, at 3:22 AM, David Conrad <<a \
href="mailto:drc@virtualized.org" target="_blank">drc@virtualized.org</a>> \
wrote:<br> >> >>> 5.Unless otherwise appealed, Afrinic board should \
not be directly involved in IP allocation process.<br> >> >><br>
>> >> Agreed, although I do not think the board should be involved in \
appeals.<br> >> >><br>
>> >> It used to be that in at least two other RIRs that I'm familiar \
with (APNIC and ARIN), the board would _never_ be directly involved in the IP \
allocation process. The role of the boards of those two RIRs was to ensure the \
policy development process was followed correctly and to be ultimately responsible \
for the operation of the organization. I don't know if that's still the case.<br> \
>> ><br> >> > That is the case. In ARIN, there is an explicit \
wall between the board and the resource allocation process, so that the board is \
never involved in specific resource requests, reviews, or fulfillment. I \
believe that to be the case in other RIRs as well.<br> >> ><br>
>> > \
-Bill<br> >> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > rpd mailing list<br>
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target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br> >> > <a \
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd" target="_blank"> \
https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</a><br> >> \
_______________________________________________<br> >> rpd mailing list<br>
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> <o:p></o:p></p>
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