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Date:       2014-02-19 12:38:25
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Kivuva......Agreed with you :-)
Yassin


On 19 February 2014 12:02, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

> What Merkel is talking about is very similar to Rousseff's a year ago.
> 
> It has been debated before that balkanising the internet is no remedy to
> security problems and spying.
> 
> Regards
> 
> ______________________
> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya.
> twitter.com/lordmwesh
> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
> 
> 
> On 18 February 2014 13:03, gandji francine <gandjif@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > +1
> > 
> > Francine GANDJI
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:25 PM, bouba <djamaab@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> > Interesting;
> > 
> > We africans it is better for us to stop bickering ourselves; lets
> > consider this possibility and above all prepare ourselves firmly on any
> > event/future of Internet in order to exist and influence the debate instead
> > of being followers.
> > 
> > ----
> > Djamaa BOUBA
> > 
> > 
> > Le Mardi 18 février 2014 20h35, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep@yahoo.fr>
> > a écrit :
> > Let us discuss again the fragmentation of the Internet. Do not be afraid to
> > face the reality of the future ...
> > 
> > Where are our Internet Activists, and Fellowshippers?
> > What are your opinions on the current and upcoming developments?
> > 
> > Happy reading :
> > 
> > 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26210053
> > 2.
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/angela_merkel_eu_internet_nsa_us/
> > 3.
> > http://www.france24.com/fr/20140217-angela-merkel-nsa-internet-europeen-espionnage-protection-donnees-personnelles-espionnage/
> >  
> > Whether you want it or not, future generations will not know the Internet
> > as it exists today. Anyway, enjoy the anarchic freedom that gives us the
> > Internet today before things normalize.
> > 
> > --
> > Pierre Lotis NANKEP
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Le Jeudi 6 février 2014 6h04, Mukom Akong T. <mukom.tamon@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > 
> > 
> > On 5 February 2014 16:28, Ben Akoh <me@benakoh.com> wrote:
> > 
> > What is this deep seated desire to close dialogues? Where does it come
> > from? It defies the very nature of Africans - our cultural fundamentals to
> > dialogue until a resolution is reached, until out hearts' content. It
> > violates the freedom of speech that we all subscribe to. Totally against
> > our being. A dialogue, any dialogue should continue until we are satisfied.
> > There are no gate keepers in traditional African dialogue settings. If you
> > wish not to participate, just play the lurker. That is some form of
> > expression too.
> > 
> > 
> > +1 Ben. Defending an open Internet by not tolerating discussion about an
> > open Internet. What an incredible demonstration on openness!!
> > 
> > 
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<div dir="ltr">Kivuva......Agreed with you :-)<div>Yassin</div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 February 2014 12:02, \
Kivuva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" \
target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">What Merkel is talking about is very similar \
to  Rousseff&#39;s a year ago.<div><br></div><div>It has been debated before that \
balkanising the internet is no remedy to security problems and spying.  </div> <div>

<br></div><div>Regards</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div \
dir="ltr">______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya.<br><a \
href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br>


<div>google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh</div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 February 2014 13:03, gandji francine <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gandjif@yahoo.com" \
target="_blank">gandjif@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica \
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><div><span>+1</span></div><span><font \
color="#888888"><div \
style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif">


<span><br></span></div><div \
style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif"><span>Francine \
GANDJI</span></div>


</font></span><div><div><div style="display:block"> <br> <br> <div \
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida \
Grande&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div \
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida \
Grande&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">


 <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:25 PM, bouba \
&lt;<a href="mailto:djamaab@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">djamaab@yahoo.fr</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <div><div><div><div \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif">


<div><span>Interesting;</span></div><div \
style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif"><span lang="en"><br \
clear="none">


W<span>e</span> <span>africans it is better for us to stop </span></span><span \
lang="en"><span></span><span></span><span></span><span>bickering ourselves; lets \
consider </span><span>this possibility</span> <span>and above all</span> \
<span>prepare ourselves</span> <span>firmly on</span> <span>any</span> \
<span>event</span>/future of Internet <span>in order to exist</span> <span>and \
influence</span> <span>the debate</span> <span>instead of</span> <span>being \
followers.</span></span></div>


<div>  </div><div><font>----<br clear="none">Djamaa BOUBA<br \
clear="none"></font></div><div style="display:block"> <br clear="none"> <br \
clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">


 <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div \
dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> Le Mardi 18 février 2014 20h35, Pierre Lotis NANKEP \
&lt;<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>&gt; a \
écrit :<br clear="none">


 </font> </div>  <div><div><div><div><div \
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif">Let us discuss again \
the fragmentation of the Internet. <span lang="en"><span>Do</span> <span>not be \
                afraid</span> <span>to face the reality</span> <span>of the future
 ...</span></span><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Where are our Internet Activists, \
and Fellowshippers?<br clear="none">What are your opinions on the current and \
upcoming developments?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">


Happy reading :<br clear="none"><ol dir="ltr"><li><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" \
href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26210053" \
target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26210053</a></li><li><a \
href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/angela_merkel_eu_internet_nsa_us/" \
target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/angela_merkel_eu_internet_nsa_us/</a></li>



<li><a href="http://www.france24.com/fr/20140217-angela-merkel-nsa-internet-europeen-espionnage-protection-donnees-personnelles-espionnage/" \
target="_blank">http://www.france24.com/fr/20140217-angela-merkel-nsa-internet-europeen-espionnage-protection-donnees-personnelles-espionnage/</a></li>



</ol><div><span lang="en"><span>Whether you</span> <span>want it</span> <span>or \
not,</span> <span>future generations</span> <span>will not  know</span> \
<span>the</span> <span>Internet</span> <span>as</span> <span>it exists today.</span> \
<span>Anyway</span><span>,</span> <span>enjoy</span> <span>the</span> \
<span>anarchic</span> <span>freedom</span> <span>that</span> <span>gives us \
the</span> <span>Internet</span> <span>today</span> <span>before</span> \
<span>things</span> <span>normalize</span><span>.</span></span></div>


<div>  </div><div>--
<br clear="none">Pierre Lotis NANKEP
<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block"> <br clear="none"> \
<br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">


 <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,&#39;Helvetica \
Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div \
dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> Le Jeudi 6 février 2014 6h04, Mukom Akong T. &lt;<a \
href="mailto:mukom.tamon@gmail.com" target="_blank">mukom.tamon@gmail.com</a>&gt; a \
écrit :<br clear="none">


 </font> </div>  <div><div><div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br \
clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>On 5 February 2014 16:28, \
Ben Akoh <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" \
href="mailto:me@benakoh.com" target="_blank">me@benakoh.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br \
clear="none">



<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>What is this deep seated desire to close dialogues? \
Where does it come from? It defies the very nature of Africans - our cultural \
fundamentals to dialogue until a resolution is reached, until out hearts&#39; \
content. It violates the freedom of speech that we all subscribe to. Totally against \
our being. A dialogue, any dialogue should continue until we are satisfied. There are \
no gate keepers in traditional African dialogue settings. If you wish not to \
participate, just play the lurker. That is some form of expression too.  </div>


</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>+1 \
Ben. Defending an open Internet by not tolerating discussion about an open Internet. \
What an incredible demonstration on openness!!</div>


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