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From:       Adamou Nacer <adamou.nacer () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-11-29 14:42:27
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Hi my brother,
Here is article 2:
> *Art. 2 :* Le nom du représentant des usagers ou les bénéficiaires des 
> services sera communiqué au président du conseil d'administration en 
> temps opportun.
This article raise many questions and is not compatible with internet 
governance standards in my humble point of view. This article means that 
*_someone_* will decide for the national community who is the users' 
representative. But we already know them and the decree must have just 
included them. This is not what I call an inclusive process Mr Bouba.
> For your information,go through the decrees organising ANTIC and ART 
> (Cameroonian Telecoms Regulatory Board),their Boards of Directors 
> (both ANTIC and ART) have representatives of civil society in their midst
Yes, for my information, can you please let me know who are the 
representatives of civil society for ANTIC?

For the rest, I don't want to attack you personally like you are doing 
here just because you don't agree with my opinion, I am well educated 
for that. I think that as intellectuals, we can have diverging opinions 
and discuss about them in a respectful manner.

Finally, I am not insulting my country Bouba, but I cannot applaude when 
there are bad decisions made. And I think that you and all managers 
working at ANTIC have responsibilities in bad advicing our president.

Regards

Le 29/11/2012 15:08, bouba a écrit :
> Hi Adamou,
> before talking nonsense, you must first read the decree. What is 
> Article 2 about? you can not read? or you just want to come and insult 
> your country? then bravo!
> For your information,go through the decrees organising ANTIC and ART 
> (Cameroonian Telecoms Regulatory Board),their Boards of Directors 
> (both ANTIC and ART) have representatives of civil society in their midst.
> During the board's meeting we are not expected congratulations as most 
> of you are doing here... unless if civil society = Adamou then, in 
> this case, you are right there is not part of this board .
> re-read the link though.
>
> http://www.prc.cm/index_fr.php?link=les_actes/lecture_act&id=471&lang=fr&quoi=D%E9cret
>
> It is not because some guys doesn't know Cameroon that you come and 
> write anything.
> ----
> Eng. Djamaa BOUBA
> Director of Normalisation and Cooperation
> National Agency for ICTs
> Yaoundé-Cameroun
> Email (Pro) : bouba@antic.cm <http://bouba@antic.cm/>
> GSM : +237 77 32 46 17
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* Adamou Nacer <adamou.nacer@gmail.com>
> *À :* "africann@afrinic.net" <africann@afrinic.net>
> *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 29 novembre 2012 9h56
> *Objet :* [AfrICANN-discuss] l'Antic nomme son conseil d'administration
>
> Hi all,
> Antic, the Cameroonian ICT Agency which is in charge of the management 
> of the .cm now have a board of directors. But surprisingly all board's 
> member are designated by the Cameroon's president, all are from 
> ministries and no representatives of the civil society or any other 
> local internet community's stakeholder.
> Really a shame of my country.
>
> http://www.prc.cm/index_fr.php?link=les_actes/lecture_act&id=471&lang=fr&quoi=D%E9cret
>
> Regards
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi my brother,<br>
      Here is article 2:<br>
      <blockquote type="cite"><b>Art. 2 :</b> Le nom du repr&eacute;sentant des
        usagers ou les b&eacute;n&eacute;ficiaires des services sera \
                communiqu&eacute; au
        pr&eacute;sident du conseil d'administration en temps opportun.</blockquote>
      This article raise many questions and is not compatible with
      internet governance standards in my humble point of view. This
      article means that <b><u>someone</u></b> will decide for the
      national community who is the users' representative. But we
      already know them and the decree must have just included them.
      This is not what I call an inclusive process Mr Bouba.<br>
      <blockquote type="cite"><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span
            class="hps">For</span> your information<span class="hps">,go
            through the decrees organising ANTIC and ART (Cameroonian
            Telecoms Regulatory Board),the</span>ir <span class="hps">Boards
            of Directors (both&nbsp;</span><span class="hps">ANTIC</span> <span
            class="hps">and</span> <span class="hps">ART)</span> <span
            class="hps">have</span> <span class="hps">representatives
            of civil society&nbsp;</span><span class="hps">in their \
midst</span></span></blockquote>  Yes, for my information, can you please let me know \
who are the  representatives of civil society for ANTIC?<br>
      <br>
      For the rest, I don't want to attack you personally like you are
      doing here just because you don't agree with my opinion, I am well
      educated for that. I think that as intellectuals, we can have
      diverging opinions and discuss about them in a respectful manner.<br>
      <br>
      Finally, I am not insulting my country Bouba, but I cannot
      applaude when there are bad decisions made. And I think that you
      and all managers working at ANTIC have responsibilities in bad
      advicing our president.<br>
      <br>
      Regards<br>
      <br>
      Le 29/11/2012 15:08, bouba a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:1354198114.69704.YahooMailNeo@web132401.mail.ird.yahoo.com"
      type="cite">
      <div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier
        New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:14pt">
        <div><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">Hi
              Adamou</span>,</span></div>
        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px;
          font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;
          background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
            id="result_box" class="" lang="en"> <span class="hps">before</span>
            <span class="hps">talking nonsense</span><span>,</span> <span
              class="hps">you must first</span> <span class="hps">read</span>
            <span class="hps">the decree.</span> What is <span
              class="hps">Article 2</span> <span class="hps">about?</span>
            <span class="hps">you</span> <span class="hps">can not \
read</span><span>?</span>  <span class="hps">or you just want to </span><span
              class="hps">come</span> and <span class="hps">insult</span>
            <span class="hps">your country</span><span class="hps">?</span>
            <span class="hps">then</span> <span class="hps">bravo!</span><br>
            <span class="hps">For</span> your information<span
              class="hps">,go through the decrees organising ANTIC and
              ART (Cameroonian Telecoms Regulatory Board),the</span>ir <span
              class="hps">Boards of Directors (both&nbsp;</span><span
              class="hps">ANTIC</span> <span class="hps">and</span> <span
              class="hps">ART)</span> <span class="hps">have</span> <span
              class="hps">representatives of civil society&nbsp;</span><span
              class="hps">in their midst.</span><br>
            <span class="hps">During the</span> <span class="hps">board's
              meeting we are </span><span class="hps">not</span> <span
              class="hps">expected</span> <span class="hps">congratulations</span>
            as most of you are doing here<span class="hps">...</span> <span
              class="hps"></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""
            lang="en"><span class="hps"><span id="result_box" class=""
                lang="en"><span class="hps">unless if civil society \
=&nbsp;</span><span  class="hps">Adamou</span> then<span class="hps">, in
                  this case, you are right there is not&nbsp;</span><span
                  class="hps">part of</span> <span class="hps">this
                  board</span></span></span> <span class="hps">.</span><br>
            <span class="hps">re-read the</span> <span class="hps">link</span>
            <span class="hps">though</span><span class="">.</span></span></div>
        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px;
          font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;
          background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.prc.cm/index_fr.php?link=les_actes/lecture_act&amp;id=471&amp;lang=fr&amp;quoi=D%E9cret"
                
            target="_blank">http://www.prc.cm/index_fr.php?link=les_actes/lecture_act&amp;id=471&amp;lang=fr&amp;quoi=D%E9cret</a></div>
  <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px;
          font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;
          background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br>
          <span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">It
              is not because some guys doesn't know Cameroon that you
              come and write anything. </span><span class="hps"></span></span></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="2">----<br>
            Eng. Djamaa BOUBA<br>
            Director of Normalisation and Cooperation<br>
            National Agency for ICTs<br>
            Yaound&eacute;-Cameroun<br>
            Email (Pro) : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://bouba@antic.cm/">bouba@antic.cm</a><br>
            GSM : +237 77 32 46 17<br>
          </font><br>
        </div>
        <div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco,
          monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;">
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                <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De&nbsp;:</span></b>
                Adamou Nacer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
                href="mailto:adamou.nacer@gmail.com">&lt;adamou.nacer@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">&Agrave;&nbsp;:</span></b>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">"africann@afrinic.net"</a> <a \
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
                href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">&lt;africann@afrinic.net&gt;</a> \
                <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoy&eacute; le :</span></b>
                Jeudi 29 novembre 2012 9h56<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet&nbsp;:</span></b>
                [AfrICANN-discuss] l'Antic nomme son conseil
                d'administration<br>
              </font> </div>
            <br>
            Hi all,<br>
            Antic, the Cameroonian ICT Agency which is in charge of the
            management of the .cm now have a board of directors. But
            surprisingly all board's member are designated by the
            Cameroon's president, all are from ministries and no
            representatives of the civil society or any other local
            internet community's stakeholder.<br>
            Really a shame of my country.<br>
            <br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.prc.cm/index_fr.php?link=les_actes/lecture_act&amp;id=471&amp;lang=fr&amp;quoi=D%E9cret"
                
              target="_blank">http://www.prc.cm/index_fr.php?link=les_actes/lecture_act&amp;id=471&amp;lang=fr&amp;quoi=D%E9cret</a><br>
  <br>
            Regards<br>
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