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I join all you have to, Esam, my sincere congratulations for this
responsibility. You greatly merit.

BAUDOUIN

2012/7/30 <africann-request@afrinic.net>

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>       (Esam Abulkhirat)
>    3. Re: Help with .africa history (Neil Dundas)
>    4. Re: Acting Director of Information Security       Directorate
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>    5. Re: Help with .africa history (Badru Ntege)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:06:17 +0300
> From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
> To: africann@afrinic.net
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> >
> > .Africa and .dotAfrica, although completely different strings from a
> > technical perspective, are undoubtedly confusingly similar to each other
> in
> > a legal context. It would be relatively easy to demonstrate this in
> > objection proceedings.
> >
>
> Since DCA have Uniforum are all competing for .africa, where does the
> confusing string come in?
>
>
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> --
> ______________________
> Mwendwa Kivuva (lordmwesh)
> For
> Business Development
> Transworld Computer Channels
> Cel: 0722402248
> twitter.com/lordmwesh
> www.transworldAfrica.com  | Fluent in computing
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:08:42 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Esam Abulkhirat <esamabulkhirat@about.me>
> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Acting Director of Information Security
>         Directorate
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> Dear Friends & Colleagues,
>
> I trust this email finds you well. This is to inform you that I have been
> assigned recently as the Acting Director of the Information Security
> Directorate in the Communications and Informatics Ministry of Libya. I hope
> we will continue our collaboration as I'm currently embarking in
> establishing and structuring this new Directorate.
>
> Best
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:27:52 +0200
> From: Neil Dundas <neild@dundas.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
> To: africann@afrinic.net
> Message-ID: <435697A6-46C6-42A7-BA78-9C1E22859BEF@dundas.co.za>
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> Compare the following string applications:
>
> .africa :
> http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184
>
> to
>
> .dotafrica :
> http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1276
>
>
> Notes:
> The above applied for strings are not identical. In simple terms,
> according to ICANN, DCA Trust has not applied for .Africa. This is a simple
> fact and can be verified against ICANN's application database.
>
> Now, if you accept the fact that UniForum and DCA Trust have applied for
> two different strings, the next step would be to determine whether those
> "different" strings are confusingly similar to each other. My view, having
> been a trade mark attorney, is that they are indeed confusingly similar.
>
> Regards
>
> ---
> NeilD
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Kivuva wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .Africa and .dotAfrica, although completely different strings from a
> technical perspective, are undoubtedly confusingly similar to each other in
> a legal context. It would be relatively easy to demonstrate this in
> objection proceedings.
> >
> > Since DCA have Uniforum are all competing for .africa, where does the
> confusing string come in?
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > --
> > ______________________
> > Mwendwa Kivuva (lordmwesh)
> > For
> > Business Development
> > Transworld Computer Channels
> > Cel: 0722402248
> > twitter.com/lordmwesh
> > www.transworldAfrica.com  | Fluent in computing
> > kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
> >
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> From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Acting Director of Information
>         Security        Directorate
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> Congratulations Esam
>
> Wish you all the good luck but also rest assured the community is here to
> share and help whenever necessary.
>
> Regards
>
> Badru Ntege
> CEO
> NFT Consult Ltd
> Www.Nftconsult.com
>
> "Vision without execution is hallucination."
> -- Thomas A. Edison
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2012, at 13:08, Esam Abulkhirat <esamabulkhirat@about.me> wrote:
>
> > Dear Friends & Colleagues,
> >
> > I trust this email finds you well. This is to inform you that I have
> been assigned recently as the Acting Director of the Information Security
> Directorate in the Communications and Informatics Ministry of Libya. I hope
> we will continue our collaboration as I'm currently embarking in
> establishing and structuring this new Directorate.
> >
> > Best
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AfrICANN mailing list
> > AfrICANN@afrinic.net
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:59:11 +0300
> From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
> To: "africann@afrinic.net" <africann@afrinic.net>
> Cc: "africann@afrinic.net" <africann@afrinic.net>
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>
> Thanks Neil
> > The above applied for strings are not identical. In simple terms,
> according to ICANN, DCA Trust has not applied for .Africa. This is a simple
> fact and can be verified against ICANN's application database.
> >
> > Now, if you accept the fact that UniForum and DCA Trust have applied for
> two different strings, the next step would be to determine whether those
> "different" strings are confusingly similar to each other. My view, having
> been a trade mark attorney, is that they are indeed confusingly similar.
> >
>
> For a moment there i was trying to see if the term confusing has also been
> redefined.
>
> Still optimistic that a resolution can be found.
>
>
>
> >
> > AfrICANN@afrinic.net
> > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann
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-- 
SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN
CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/
ACADEMIE DES TIC
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<span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">I join</span> <span \
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<span class="hps">this responsibility</span><span>.</span> <span \
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Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
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&nbsp; &nbsp;1. Re: Help with .africa history (Kivuva)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;2. Acting Director of Information Security &nbsp; Directorate<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Esam Abulkhirat)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;3. Re: Help with .africa history (Neil Dundas)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;4. Re: Acting Director of Information Security &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \
Directorate<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Badru Ntege)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;5. Re: Help with .africa history (Badru Ntege)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:06:17 +0300<br>
From: Kivuva &lt;<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>&gt;<br>
                
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
To: <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:CAEhPqwrn8CQ72HjxUQoNUWSi-gZRu3Yd3RKjXa9aaY2Ehpis4g@mail.gmail.com">CAEhPqwrn8CQ72HjxUQoNUWSi-gZRu3Yd3RKjXa9aaY2Ehpis4g@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                
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&gt;<br>
&gt; .Africa and .dotAfrica, although completely different strings from a<br>
&gt; technical perspective, are undoubtedly confusingly similar to each other in<br>
&gt; a legal context. It would be relatively easy to demonstrate this in<br>
&gt; objection proceedings.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Since DCA have Uniforum are all competing for .africa, where does the<br>
confusing string come in?<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Regards<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
--<br>
______________________<br>
Mwendwa Kivuva (lordmwesh)<br>
For<br>
Business Development<br>
Transworld Computer Channels<br>
Cel: 0722402248<br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br>
<a href="http://www.transworldAfrica.com" \
target="_blank">www.transworldAfrica.com</a> &nbsp;| Fluent in computing<br> <a \
                href="http://kenya.or.ke" target="_blank">kenya.or.ke</a> | The Kenya \
                we know<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:08:42 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Esam Abulkhirat &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:esamabulkhirat@about.me">esamabulkhirat@about.me</a>&gt;<br>
                
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Acting Director of Information Security<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Directorate<br>
To: <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:8CF3C526E2820D0-1F70-7E0@webmail-m029.sysops.aol.com">8CF3C526E2820D0-1F70-7E0@webmail-m029.sysops.aol.com</a>&gt;<br>
                
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Dear Friends &amp; Colleagues,<br>
<br>
I trust this email finds you well. This is to inform you that I have been assigned \
recently as the Acting Director of the Information Security Directorate in the \
Communications and Informatics Ministry of Libya. I hope we will continue our \
collaboration as I&#39;m currently embarking in establishing and structuring this new \
Directorate.<br>


<br>
Best<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:27:52 +0200<br>
From: Neil Dundas &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:neild@dundas.co.za">neild@dundas.co.za</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
To: <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:435697A6-46C6-42A7-BA78-9C1E22859BEF@dundas.co.za">435697A6-46C6-42A7-BA78-9C1E22859BEF@dundas.co.za</a>&gt;<br>
                
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Compare the following string applications:<br>
<br>
.africa : <a href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184" \
target="_blank">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184</a><br>



<br>
to<br>
<br>
.dotafrica : <a href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1276" \
target="_blank">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1276</a><br>



<br>
<br>
Notes:<br>
The above applied for strings are not identical. In simple terms, according to ICANN, \
DCA Trust has not applied for .Africa. This is a simple fact and can be verified \
against ICANN&#39;s application database.<br> <br>
Now, if you accept the fact that UniForum and DCA Trust have applied for two \
different strings, the next step would be to determine whether those \
&quot;different&quot; strings are confusingly similar to each other. My view, having \
been a trade mark attorney, is that they are indeed confusingly similar.<br>


<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
---<br>
NeilD<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Kivuva wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; .Africa and .dotAfrica, although completely different strings from a technical \
perspective, are undoubtedly confusingly similar to each other in a legal context. It \
would be relatively easy to demonstrate this in objection proceedings.<br>


&gt;<br>
&gt; Since DCA have Uniforum are all competing for .africa, where does the confusing \
string come in?<br> &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Regards<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; ______________________<br>
&gt; Mwendwa Kivuva (lordmwesh)<br>
&gt; For<br>
&gt; Business Development<br>
&gt; Transworld Computer Channels<br>
&gt; Cel: 0722402248<br>
&gt; <a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" \
target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br> &gt; <a \
href="http://www.transworldAfrica.com" target="_blank">www.transworldAfrica.com</a> \
&nbsp;| Fluent in computing<br> &gt; <a href="http://kenya.or.ke" \
target="_blank">kenya.or.ke</a> | The Kenya we know<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; AfrICANN mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br>
&gt; <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" \
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:46:57 +0300<br>
From: Badru Ntege &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>&gt;<br>
                
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Acting Director of Information<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Security &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Directorate<br>
To: &quot;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>&quot; &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &quot;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>&quot; &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>&gt;<br>
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Congratulations Esam<br>
<br>
Wish you all the good luck but also rest assured the community is here to share and \
help whenever necessary.<br> <br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Badru Ntege<br>
CEO<br>
NFT Consult Ltd<br>
<a href="http://Www.Nftconsult.com" target="_blank">Www.Nftconsult.com</a><br>
<br>
&ldquo;Vision without execution is hallucination.&rdquo;<br>
&#8213; Thomas A. Edison<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 30 Jul 2012, at 13:08, Esam Abulkhirat &lt;<a \
href="mailto:esamabulkhirat@about.me">esamabulkhirat@about.me</a>&gt; wrote:<br> <br>
&gt; Dear Friends &amp; Colleagues,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I trust this email finds you well. This is to inform you that I have been \
assigned recently as the Acting Director of the Information Security Directorate in \
the Communications and Informatics Ministry of Libya. I hope we will continue our \
collaboration as I&#39;m currently embarking in establishing and structuring this new \
Directorate.<br>


&gt;<br>
&gt; Best<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; AfrICANN mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br>
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:59:11 +0300<br>
From: Badru Ntege &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>&gt;<br>
                
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
To: &quot;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>&quot; &lt;<a \
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Thanks Neil<br>
&gt; The above applied for strings are not identical. In simple terms, according to \
ICANN, DCA Trust has not applied for .Africa. This is a simple fact and can be \
verified against ICANN&#39;s application database.<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Now, if you accept the fact that UniForum and DCA Trust have applied for two \
different strings, the next step would be to determine whether those \
&quot;different&quot; strings are confusingly similar to each other. My view, having \
been a trade mark attorney, is that they are indeed confusingly similar.<br>


&gt;<br>
<br>
For a moment there i was trying to see if the term confusing has also been \
redefined.<br> <br>
Still optimistic that a resolution can be found.<br>
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