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Subject: Re: Is there a way to monitor delayed message ?
From: Tim Bain <tbain () alumni ! duke ! edu>
Date: 2019-07-19 1:36:26
Message-ID: CAPVVMa9Rp6bh7FO2H0Jn6XLe60FVRrYo4c7CmA3Q7C5RJJHdSw () mail ! gmail ! com
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Sounds great. And my expectation was never that the getAllJobs() method
would be what you'd use long-term, just that it would give you an option
for right now, to tide you over until this enhancement gets implemented. So
hopefully it's better than not being able to do this at all.
Tim
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 10:34 AM COURTAULT Francois <
francois.courtault@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In fact this is not a bug. The getAllJobs required a start and end time.
> So it's quite difficult to use regarding what I want to monitor: at t
> time, I want to get the number of delayed messages.
>
> This is the reason why I have submitted a new enhancement request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-7246
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: COURTAULT Francois
> Sent: jeudi 18 juillet 2019 11:20
> To: users@activemq.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Is there a way to monitor delayed message ?
>
> Hello,
>
> Submitted: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-7243
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Bain [mailto:tbain@alumni.duke.edu]
> Sent: jeudi 18 juillet 2019 06:47
> To: ActiveMQ Users <users@activemq.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Is there a way to monitor delayed message ?
>
> Please submit that bug report to the ActiveMQ JIRA. Nothing in the stack
> trace looks to me like it's related to Tomee; this one looks like it's
> squarely on us.
>
> Sorry that due to this bug there's no out-of-the-box way to do what you're
> looking for.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 7:01 AM COURTAULT Francois <
> francois.courtault@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Tim,
> >
> > Forgot to mention that I am using TomEE 8.0.0 M3 with ActiveMQ 5.15.6.
> > I have called getAllJobs on JobScheduler MBean and get an exception:
> > javax.management.RuntimeMBeanException: java.lang.NullPointerException
> > at
> > com.sun.jmx.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.rethrow(DefaultM
> > BeanServerInterceptor.java:839)
> > at
> > com.sun.jmx.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.rethrowMaybeMBea
> > nException(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:852)
> > at
> >
> com.sun.jmx.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:821)
> > ....
> > Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at
> > java.text.SimpleDateFormat.parse(SimpleDateFormat.java:1439)
> > at java.text.DateFormat.parse(DateFormat.java:364)
> > at
> > org.apache.activemq.broker.scheduler.JobSupport.getDataTime(JobSupport
> > .java:36)
> > at
> > org.apache.activemq.broker.jmx.JobSchedulerView.getAllJobs(JobSchedule
> > rView.java:70)
> >
> > Should I report this issue to ActiveMQ JIRA as well as TomEE JIRA ?
> >
> > I also will submit a JIRA for having delyed message counter.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Bain [mailto:tbain@alumni.duke.edu]
> > Sent: mardi 16 juillet 2019 14:48
> > To: ActiveMQ Users <users@activemq.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Is there a way to monitor delayed message ?
> >
> > The JobScheduler MBean that Tim referenced has a getAllJobs() method
> > that you could use to get a count right now.
> >
> > Longer term, if you want to suggest that counters be added to that
> > MBean, please submit an enhancement request in JIRA. And of course the
> > only way to guarantee that an enhancement you care about on an
> > open-source project gets implemented is to do it yourself, so if you
> > felt like tackling it and submitting a pull request, it would be
> > welcome. If not, you'll have to hope that someone else thinks it's
> > important enough to spend their time implementing.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:54 AM COURTAULT Francois <
> > francois.courtault@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Sorry I haven't seen the reply. I do confirm that the questions are
> > > about 5.x.
> > > The only entries I have are
> > > - JobScheduler having JMS MBean with no attribute linked to
> > > scheduled store
> > > - PersistenceAdapter having a KahaDBPersistenceAdapter: same story
> > > - Queue having a myQueue: same story
> > > -Topic ....
> > >
> > > So I think this kind is missing and should be added in JMX !
> > >
> > > Best Regards.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tim Bain [mailto:tbain@alumni.duke.edu]
> > > Sent: samedi 13 juillet 2019 18:24
> > > To: ActiveMQ Users <users@activemq.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Is there a way to monitor delayed message ?
> > >
> > > As Tim Bish wrote in his answer here (
> > >
> > > https://stac
> > > koverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F21747227%2Fview-delayed-messages-in-acti
> > > ve
> > > mq&data=02%7C01%7CFrancois.Courtault%40gemalto.com%7Cf2eac8cf76a
> > > e4
> > > 521c51308d709ebedfe%7C37d0a9db7c464096bfe31add5b495d6d%7C0%7C1%7C636
> > > 98
> > > 8781235668227&sdata=iXKzhLNn%2FCHYGycdw%2FVLzhwKakY%2FMNIyFvmzeO
> > > w3
> > > 9Xg%3D&reserved=0
> > > ),
> > > "The scheduled messages are kept in a separate store and only
> > > injected into the broker once their scheduled time arrives so they
> > > won't show up in the web console."
> > >
> > > So if any JMX counters exist, they would be 1) global across all
> > > scheduled messages rather than per-destination, and 2) associated
> > > with the MBeans for the scheduled store (if those exist) rather than
> > > with the MBeans for individual destinations. I don't personally know
> > > whether the scheduled store actually has MBeans, but that should be
> > > straightforward for you to check.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 10:05 PM Justin Bertram <jbertram@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The names of the metrics he mentioned match those from 5.x and not
> > > > Artemis so I assume he's asking about 5.x.
> > > >
> > > > However, it's worth noting that Artemis does track
> > > > delayed/scheduled messages using the ScheduledCount metric on the
> QueueControl MBean.
> > > > I don't see a way to do this in 5.x. Artemis also supports JMS 2.0
> > > > whereas 5.x doesn't.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:25 PM Tim Bain <tbain@alumni.duke.edu>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is this question about 5.x or Artemis?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 5:05 PM COURTAULT Francois <
> > > > > francois.courtault@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The question is in the subject.
> > > > > > Is it possible to use JMX ? I have tried to find some counters
> > > > > > without
> > > > > any
> > > > > > success :(
> > > > > > Only:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * DequeueCount
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * DispatchCount
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * EnqueueCount
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * ExpiredCount
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * InFlightCount
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But no DelayedCount !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does JMS 2.0 API can be used for delaying message (eg
> > > > > > setDeliveryDelay method on a JMSProducer) ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards.
> > > > > >
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