'Re: Artemis 2.0: JMS seems to create an address/queue on jmsSession.createProducer() calls'

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Subject:    Re: Artemis 2.0: JMS seems to create an address/queue on jmsSession.createProducer() calls
From:       andytaylor <andy.tayls67 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2017-03-31 13:02:06
Message-ID: CAA9ykMK_9THbzagHM2xm=J8S-v7SJrpNSHpsaWGXLQyAsmetuQ () mail ! gmail ! com
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Im not sure I mentioned a topic, however for clarification jms queue =
anycast and jms topic = multicast in general

On 31 March 2017 at 13:30, titou10 [via ActiveMQ] <
ml-node+s2283324n4724423h93@n4.nabble.com> wrote:

> I must admit I'm lost here..
> 
> The example is from https://activemq.apache.org/
> artemis/docs/2.0.0/address-model.html, section "Point-to-Point Address
> multiple
> Queues" and there is no question about Topics here
> 
> Do you say that q1 is a Topic from a JMS perspective, even if it is
> attached to an "ANYCAST" Address?
> 
> Quoting the section "Mapping JMS Concepts to the Core API"
> 
> "A JMS topic is implemented in core as an address with name=(the topic
> name) and with a MULTICAST routing type with zero or more
> queues bound to it. Each queue bound to that address represents a topic
> subscription.Likewise, a JMS queue is implemented as an
> address with name=(the JMS queue name) with an ANYCAST routing type
> assocatied with it."
> 
> Please help me understand the rules to determine if an "Artemis Address"
> is a JMS Topic or a JMS Queue and also how to determine if
> an "Artemis Queue" is a JMS Topic or a JMS Queue because the definition
> above is either incomplete or the assumption on q1 are wrong
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 31/03/2017 Ă  08:12, andytaylor a ĂŠcrit :
> 
> > It does adhere to the JMS spec, the destinations are just created
> > dynamically not explicitly because of the call.NB mos vendors do this
> > 
> > For the second exception, this is because you send to an address not a
> > queue, so it tries to create a new queue under the address q1 which
> fails
> > because it already exists under address address.foo
> > 
> > On 31 March 2017 at 13:05, titou10 [via ActiveMQ] <
> > [hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4724423&i=0>>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > OK...
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure that setting the server in this mode respects the JMS
> > > specs...maybe it may be considered as a JMS extension?
> > > 
> > > And what about the ActiveMQQueueExistsException[errorType=QUEUE_EXISTS
> > > message=AMQ119019: Queue already exists q1]exception for the
> > > second case ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le 31/03/2017 Ă  07:51, andytaylor a ĂŠcrit :
> > > 
> > > > This happens if you have auto create for queues/topics configured on
> the
> > > > address settings, you can turn this off if you desire
> > > > 
> > > > On 31 March 2017 at 12:17, titou10 [via ActiveMQ] <
> > > > [hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4724421&i=0>>
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > FYI, same code to an IBM MQ server fails as expected with an
> > > > > "UNKNOWN_OBJECT_NAME" on the createProducer() method
> > > > > 
> > > > > com.ibm.mq.MQException: JMSCMQ0001: IBM MQ call failed with compcode
> > > '2'
> > > > > ('MQCC_FAILED') reason '2085' ('MQRC_UNKNOWN_OBJECT_NAME').
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.wmq.common.internal.Reason.
> > > > > createException(Reason.java:203) ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.wmq.internal.WMQMessageProducer.
> > > > > checkJmqiCallSuccess(WMQMessageProducer.java:1248) ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.wmq.internal.WMQMessageProducer.
> > > > > checkJmqiCallSuccess(WMQMessageProducer.java:1205) ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.wmq.internal.WMQMessageProducer.
> > > > > access$800(WMQMessageProducer.java:75) ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.wmq.internal.WMQMessageProducer$
> > > > > SpiIdentifiedProducerShadow.initialise(WMQMessageProducer.java:801)
> > > > > ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.wmq.internal.WMQMessageProducer.<
> > > > > init>(WMQMessageProducer.java:1181) ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.wmq.internal.WMQSession.
> > > > > createProducer(WMQSession.java:1077) ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.msg.client.jms.internal.JmsSessionImpl.
> > > > > createProducer(JmsSessionImpl.java:1498) ~[na:na]
> > > > > at com.ibm.mq.jms.MQSession.createProducer(MQSession.java:661)
> 
> > > > > ~[na:na]
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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