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From:       Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder () gmail ! com>
Date:       2023-08-23 17:07:44
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 4:18 PM Chad Broadus <Chad.Broadus@finvi.com.invalid>
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> Chad Broadus
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> From: Arthur Naseef <art@amlinv.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 5:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: Home for activemq-openwire
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> Thank you Tim.  That helps.
> 
> Art
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> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 2:23 PM Timothy Bish <tabish121@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 8/22/23 15:28, Arthur Naseef wrote:
> > > I'd like to ask first to get some clarification.
> > > 
> > > Using the activemq-openwire project, I was able to get it to generate
> > > openwire Java code, but that code did not exactly match the code in the
> > > activemq codebase.  It appeared to be mostly non-functional
> differences,
> > > such as packages being renamed, and import statements vs.
> full-qualified
> > > class names in the code.
> > > 
> > > Here are my questions:
> > > 
> > > - What is the process for building and releasing a new version of
> the
> > > openwire protocol?
> > 
> > There is no process other than running the generator in the ActiveMQ
> > tree if you can get it to run, I don't recall if there's anything
> > written down now that explains it as it has been years since I touched
> > it and my memory is foggy.  I vaguely recall there being an antrun
> > target in the pom file to run the generator so something like 'mvn
> > antrun:run'.
> > 
> > possibly some insights here:
> > 
> > 
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> https://github.com/apache/activemq-nms-openwire-generator/blob/d16ff371fecade87f97942cdf0174ab790bc999c/pom.xml#L172
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > - Where are the NMS and C++ parts generated?  Are there others
> > generated
> > > as well?
> > 
> > I already answered this, please read my previous response.
> > 
> > 
> > > - How much manual intervention is needed in that process (e.g. are
> > the
> > > java files generated, then copied and editted before being
> committed
> > in the
> > > main project)?
> > 
> > I don't recall anymore if there is much intervention needed other than
> > generating the new marshallers but I do recall that KahaDB has some
> > settings that indicate which version it uses as a baseline.  I'd look at
> > git commits in the 5.x code around the marshaller version code and see
> > what was touched in the commit.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Art
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:22 PM Matt Pavlovich <mattrpav@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi-
> > > > 
> > > > The activmeq-openwire project is currently hosted in a separate git
> > > > repository. The project is used to generate marshaller classes for
> > multiple
> > > > languages and would be suitable for supporting multi-broker openwire
> > > > support as well (5.x and Artemis). However, it does not appear to be
> > active
> > > > in any build lifecycle or toolchain for any of the ActiveMQ projects.
> > > > 
> > > > I propose that we host the activemq-openwire project in the main 5.x
> > tree
> > > > for a couple reasons:
> > > > 
> > > > 1. JDK changes and overall maintenance is easier from a single repo.
> We
> > > > can add notes able compatibility or a README-VERSIONS.md to note what
> > > > product releases go to which protocol versions, and when those
> protocol
> > > > versions changed.
> > > > 
> > > > 2. ActiveMQ 5.x uses openwire as its internal native protocol. It
> makes
> > > > sense to host it there, especially of things like enhancements to
> > network
> > > > connector commands, which other client libraries and brokers usually
> do
> > not
> > > > adopt fully.
> > > > 
> > > > 3. There are planned enhancements coming that most likely require
> > openwire
> > > > version bumps:
> > > > - JMS 2.0 support features
> > > > - Replication support (using Network Connectors)
> > > > 
> > > > Discuss.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Matt Pavlovich
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
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